First, watchthis clip.
The easiest way to dismiss a proposition or a hypothesis is to either label it using a cultural term which denotes an unwanted moral position, such as sexism, racism, fascism, or it is to simply call it a conspiracy theory.
The last, in particular avoids answering by including a propositions within a group of propositions that are considered absurd.
If you want to say that the CIA & FBI were/are incompetent, thinking only of covering their asses, fine. The evidence for that is overwhelming. But to claim they (or we all) are to blame for causing 9-11 is absurd and totally baseless with nothing but pure fantasy held up as evidence.
Did you watch the clip?
It’s a painful truth that your government is not the benevolent entity you would like to think of it as…no more benevolent than your god.
It’s also a painful truth that incompetence is a good excuse but it doesn’t answer all the questions.
I tried to download but, man it was taking far too long. So I will just go by the comments here unless you can provide a summary.
We are all responsible for 9/11, all of us. Our gov’t behaves the way it does because we let them. They are our employees and we let them rule us. We put our heads in the dirt or look the other way when cops break down our neighbors’s door in the middle of the night. We shake our heads when those cops kill innocent people. We let our Gov’t make us the world’s enemy. We the people, in order to form a more perfect union , have handed our rights and responsibilities over to greedy powermongering idiots and we the people are quite content with this as long as we get to channel surf on our big screen TVs.
How the U.S. “Democracy” and their “free-press” works.
When a population has been kept blind, stupid and its critical judgments made apathetic with hedonism, this is what happens.
We keep ourselves blind and stupid, Satyr, can’t you find some text link that does not require an hour to buffer and download for us pathetic dial up backwater hicks? I will be happy with your summary too, if you care to do one.
Get an upgrade, will ya.
you do, at least.
I would if one were offered out here, or if Sat links would be more reliable. Right now Sat links out here suck, a few dense clouds go over and “boom” dissconnect. Last time( a year ago) we had Sat it was off more than it was on and that is bad for clients we have. Better to be slow then down. I apologize about the inconvienience of backwater Mississippi. ](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/uploads/default/original/2X/7/7c349bf1053f368a5729d053e1e91215f22ce66c.gif "Brick wall"){kind=small}
Maybe there’s a conspiracy to keep you offline.
No, its just the evil purple monkeys trying to keep us slow.
Damn good video Satyr. As I’ve said, in this country you need to draw pictures using crayons to get people to understand what’s happening. Every time I go anywhere I can almost feel the stupidity all around me.
To hell with it, anyway, people will always be too stupid to do anything or even understand it.
Many of things in the video have been available and known for years.
deepblacklies.co.uk/the_pega … -part1.htm
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Dale_Scott
If we dig deeper than deep politics, we start to see the fact that many rich people are suddenly interested in space travel and going to Mars. 
And they are serious.
We will see more of these after Iran war, and then China war. 
EDIT:
A few additional links.
users.cybermac.com.au/myers/bugs.html
libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=15507
People volunteer to give up their independent thought and freedom, they happily go down the easiest path shown. Is it the gov’ts fault that people do this? No… Do the wealthy and powerful take advantage, hell yes… its simply the most human thing to do. Given wealth and incredible power how much different would you be over time? You may be great at first but, over time? I seriously doubt that any of us would behave any differently. Power and wealth exhaust your morals and ethics. We humans get spoiled to the ease of luxury rather quickly and we will make wonderful unethical and immoral petty excuses to keep it. We can make justifications as easy as children make mudpies.
For the average joe its not stupidity as much as it is just a need to get through life the easiest way that joe can see and that means following someone else. It seems to me its all a survival instinct gone awry or warped.
The Jamaica “conspiracy” Globalization and Jamaica: video.google.com/videoplay?docid … 6195828118
The Indonesia “conspiracy” The New rulers of The World video.google.com/videoplay?docid … 4526581006
The Diego Garcia “conspiracy” Stealing a Nation video.google.com/videoplay?docid … 9758632511
The Yugoslavia “conspiracy” The Avoidable War video.google.com/videoplay?docid … 3901674397
The Philippines “conspiracy” War by Other Means video.google.com/videoplay?docid … 8596929639
The Venezuela “conspiracy” The Revolution will not be Televised video.google.com/videoplay?docid … 5689805144
Jeez the assumptions you make. I’m a libertarian, anti-big government agnostic. Neither the fictional God of the Bible, nor the socialist power our US government has become are benevolent (to the subject people). But to foreign powers we’ve been apoplectic about not being viewed as ugly Americans by, cause us to be ashamed of the wealth and military ability that we’ve achieved–making us to seek appeasement with the unappeasable.
Our incompetence/naïvety and their hate. That’s all there is. Everything else is a conspiracy theory in its worst context.
You’re not "ashamed"you are pretentious.
You seek to make it look like your foot on another’s neck is for their own good.
But who’s the ‘you’ in this tale? You are no less a victim of it than those you think you’ve taken part in dominating.
You’re like a fat sports fan cheering on his team and vicariously living this teams victories and athletic prowess, as he munches on chips and gulps down another six-pack.
The painful truth is that you, and your kind, are painfully naive.
Remember that banned proclaiming ‘Mission Accomplished’? It was later made into an embarrassing error when it was a declaration of fact.
Do you know why?
Because the actual mission was accomplished, it was the later fabricated excuses for what the mission was supposed to be, that became a fiasco.
If you buy into the bullshit, your government throws about, you’ll beleive that this was also a mistake, when in fact the actual mission was accomplished on that day.
Time to wake up and smell the coffee.
Man is not this kind and benevolent creature and you are not in charge of your ‘Democratic process’. You are a minion, kept well-fed, inebriated and obtusely ignorant so that you remain manageable.
I must say that it was an informative video… i watched the entire thing… (all 2 hours)
I knew that the shit went deep i just didn’t really know how far…
After watching “The War Tapes” (a film made by a U.S marine squad) I made the connection that the vice president having his pokets twisted up in military contractors i kinda figured that it wasn’t just a coincidence.
When does the ride stop?
How do i get off?
You people hear me talk of beheading the elites and think i’m being outlandish…
Watch the clip and you’ll say the same thing…
My favorite quote from the clip
“Those in control have always played a rigged game, but the thing is when you always play a rigged game you get stupid because you dont have to perform”
The shit is tumbling out of the closet and soon all those “non-academics” and “non-readers” will know just aswell as we do.
It’s true… The U.S government is a criminal syndicate.
I live in canada and i feeel like i live in the U.S…
When they “war with us” either we will hold up a tiny white flag made out of toothpicks gumdrops and toilet paper (not the good kind) or we will play the role of martyr when the world decides that america has had enough…
We might have to get punched in the face before the world gives america the bumbs rush…
Either road isn’t too pleasant.
Please elaborate on this. I don’t want to high-jack this thread, but suffice it to say that I agree with your call for violence; however I feel that the violence ought to be directed against the people and the culture, not against the elites per say because the elites are the creations of the voters, consumers and so on (in other words the other way around from how it is generally presented in the “conspiracy” documentaries). What say ye?
It seems questionable at best that like 5 major corporations own most news stations and programs.
That has nothing to do with 9/11 which had nothing to do with the government directly flying a plane into a building. Anyone who thinks that wasn’t very likely islamic terrorism is probably quite a bit touched and is operating more like a prehistoric animal than a man. Its beneficial for humans to assume hidden forces working against them, we have adaptations, ‘agency detection modules’ that detect intentionality behind all things, and thats the reason a lot of people are willing to scream ‘conspiracy’ at the drop of a hat.
The problem is we have plenty of intetionality/agency to point at. Is it the US government that makes public/international statements about funding assassination squads to kill the author of a book/anyone envolved in it? Directly leading to hotel floors being blown out of them, book translators being tortured or shot in the back with a highpowered rifle and left in the snow for dead, the continous assassination attempts at once-muslim now reformed secularists? Train bombings resulting in hundreds of deaths.
Considering statistics that muslims have been attributed more than half of all recorded suicide bombings in recorded history within just the last decade, its not really all that fucking surprising.
Not to mention statistics about first world muslims crying for sharia law, who wouldn’t rat out a terrorist if they knew one, who support bin laden, who want X, all these statistics show the insane beliefs of muslims in first world countries, let alone muslim countries, where they continously commit atrocities against themselves and women and terrorist against against rival muslims.
How could anyone even doubt it was muslims on 9/11? and if it wasn’t, I want real evidence, not bullshit, dreamed up, nonsense that was refuted the week it was suggested. Good luck finding that.