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Is this sarcasm?
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…um, no.
Were you being mordacious?
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Yes, mordacious about sarcasm.
I mean Jesus, Zombie, Frankenstein, Dracula … has to be sarcasm in there somewhere …
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…um, actually, no.
I checked the image again…no sarcasm anywhere on the venn diagram.
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Interesting diagram.
Doesn’t seem terribly relevant to anything, but interesting none the less.
I guess it demonstrates the potential uselessness of Venn Diagrams… much like statistics reports.
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I think it’s terribly relevant and philosophically, very insightful.
The diagram really strips our emotional need for our very humanistic belief in a god and just makes it stand there…naked.
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Martin Luther King was one of Jesus’ mindless followers.
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wait a minute…WAIT ONE MINUTE!
I’ve got to settle down for a minute.
Hold on…
Wheeew.
OK, let me get this straight.
And let me see if I can get through this WITHOUT getting permanently banned from this forum…
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You pick today, August 28 2012, the 49 anniversary of the famous Martin Luther King speech, I Have A Dream to say this about the GREAT Dr. King.
I don’t know what to say.
Actually I’m not going to say anything.
Today was going sooooooooooooo well - and then THIS.
I’m shaking inside.
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I’ve got to get off the boards for a while.
That cut me like a knife…
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The crucifixion picture is not accurate. Putting a nail through the hands will not support the weight of a body on a cross. The Romans drove the nails through the wrist. Little nitpicky crap such as this can destroy an entire edifice of religious assumptions.
I do think the portrayal of Jesus here is the same mistake as placing the nail where it wasn’t . These analogies are just plain wrong.
I have never seen the slightest evidence to support that strawman argument coming from the anti-Christ crowd.
And it really doesn’t make any sense that the more original people telling the stories would bother to change from wrist to hand.
I’m certainly not anti-Christ. You can look up the Roman tradition of crucifixion if you like. It does not alter the fact that Jesus was cricified. The wrist is part of the hand.
So why make the argument?
The anti-Christ agenda is to instill doubt in every possible aspect of history. Such a distinction could not possibly be substantiated in any way. Even if every other person had the spike through their wrist, it wouldn’t mean that Jesus did. Is the thought supposed to be that the Romans were scientifically calculating every tiny little thing that every soldier did? Seems kind of ridiculous to me.
Why the argument? Literalism vs other possible interpretations. That’s the crux of the diagram, which takes folklore as legitimate analogy for who Christ is. The diagram is as offensive as one believes it to be. IMHO, it’s humorous; it’s a referencing of old books and movies that say nothing of the reality of Christ. Such phrases as “mindless followers” should have been the clue that you are dealing here with comic book mentality. That Jesus was and is is not questioned by many believers who were martyred in the name of Christ and the sense of human justice Christ espoused.
The diagram is about Literalism vs possible interpretations… relating to hand vs wrist???
How did you get that?
Literalism, scriptural interpretation and ensuing dogma, claimed Christ was nailed in the hand. This thread claims that any semblance of folklore to who and what Christ is can be accurate. Accept first the facts. Jesus was nailed at the wrist. Zombies, Frankenstein and Dracula are fictional accounts, having nothing to do with Christ. Fiction, although entertaining and speaking mostly to who and what we are, is not truth in the wider sense of explaining something other than what it is.
Well if you want to play Venny games;
Good one St. James. At least it’s coherent, and makes some sense …
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This is going to sound strange but - it’s true.
I want to preface this by saying I already know that you will not be able to find any support of this fact on the internet.
Here it is:
When Christ was crucified the Romans used the same type of spike that they used on the hands & feet except the spike was driven in from the opposite side of the cross, driven through, pointing up…at um, waist level.
The horrific torture that is crucifixion is the fact that the Romans would nail your feet through your arch onto a block of wood that had an incline. The spike up your ass would slowly rip your guts out through your asshole while you would naturally push up with your legs. As you grow weaker, your legs are no longer able to support your weight and you slowly rip a larger hole.
Sometimes the Romans would take a metal rod and break your shins with it - if they wanted to be nice. But it was still no picnic.
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& even if the anti Christ people think they have one upmanship, consider this: Christ was the serpent tempting Eve in the Garden… Venn Diagrams overcome boundaries of exclusive literal interpretations, however they are like ad-men would think of to promote an agenda.
In the beginning was the word, and the word had come to be from an evolving representation of increasingly loaded meaning.
The summa of that meaning was a consciousness of conversion. (St.john the B
Baptist) of meaning. The conversion was open ended in the further representation of meaning. What had to follow was the redemption. Why?
Because the whole ontology of the conversion from pagan to christian left the psyche hanging. (In doubt) the structural balance of faith would have regressed to the pre conversion.
I am not arguing the effective, elegant idea of a figurative pseudo demonstration, but it leaves out the eschological value of the evolutionary process of God consciousness.