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Cool word.
I would have used it too, just to use it.
Yes - I believe that five nails were used to crucify the now metaphorical Christ.
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Some mindless drones can’t tell one from the other.
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Bill,
Apples and cherries are both fruit that grow on trees, hence, according to your logic apples can be cherries. Your attributes of comparison prove nothing.
3 is traditionally one of those “spiritualized” numbers. There could have been five nails and the theologians would still go for three. If you recall, I apologized for bringing up that aside and am wondering now why all this play is going on with someone who has no understanding of simple logic. Attributes in a comparison do not necessarily prove identity.
5 is also a magic number.
So are 4, 7, 12, 40 and 144 among others. I can’t seem to find Biblical references to 5. Enlighten me. Meanwhile we are contributing to a thread made by someone who asks for philosophical criticism, but will not hear or accept it. The problem remains that a comparison has been made between Christ and zombies, Frankenstein and Dracula, by asserting that certain archetypal ideas prove an identity rather than a selective choice of characteristics or attributes. My apple/cherry argument should have shown the nonsense of this claim. Yet, God forbid, I should inject reason into such a fun indulgence in abstract images.
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Duplicate thread, but to the point!
If you search biblegateway, you will get 270 references to ‘five’, including : 5 stones David used to kill Goliath, 5 pillars, 5 curtains, etc in the tabernacle, 5 loaves used to feed the multitude.
The pentagon and pentagram were special to the Pythagoreans. They are the important in occult magic.
But really, when people start counting things and assigning special meanings to certain numbers, then you know that they are posting bs.
There are some amazing numbers like pi, e, i. Math is real magic. 
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5 spikes to crucify Christ =
1 spike - to nail a placket of sorts to the top of the cross. I think it would have one word; the most foul word that was possible at that time in that culture.
2 spikes - through Jesus palms
1 spike - up Jesus ass driven in an upward angle through the back side of the cross
1 spike - driven through both arches of Christ’s feet onto a downward sloped piece of wood.
I don’t have any symbolic meaning to 5 spikes. It was purely economical.
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Ok, so 5 is a Biblical “magic” number. I was aware of Pythagoras and the “witchcraft” pentagon. What I’m asking here is why we cannot address this OP with logic instead of quibbling over numbers. Mathematics yields to ontology. It is a set of propositions that work within its own definitions of reality, leaving out most human experiences that entail belief or spirituality. IMHO, since no logical criticism of the OP is accepted or responded to in this thread, it remains some competition among whoever can download images from the web, and has nothing to do with either religion or philosophy.
This OP is not about Jesus, or the merits of what he said or did.
A lot of the posters are not actually interested in religion or philosophy so it’s pretty much impossible to discuss things in any meaningful way.
Oh, well, maybe there is a forum somewhere else …
The OP claims to define Jesus. Or asks for definitions of Jesus based on faulty comparisons.
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Why?
Why can’t the Venn diagram I used in the original post be used as a visual metaphor for the feelings and underlying spirit of man?
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A Venn diagram shows the relationship between sets. It doesn’t define anything. In the OP, there was a set (circle) ‘Local townspeople fear and revere him’ … Jesus, Dracula and Frankenstein do not belong to this set.
Immediately you know what to expect - a bunch of nonsense pretending to be clever.
I have already explained why and in similar format for you.
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I agree with everything you said except I think I would add,
A Venn diagram shows the relationship between sets. It defines things. In the OP, there were three circles; ‘Local townspeople fear and revere him’ … Jesus, Dracula and Frankenstein definitely belong to this set.
Immediately you know what to expect - a bunch of cleverness pretending to be nonsense.
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Venn diagrams are very useful for philosophy.
They draw out a clear and exacting image for understanding.
So often, individuals cloche their ignorance with bullshit; Words.
The diagram really strips our emotional need for our very humanistic belief in a god and just makes it stand there…naked.
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