Corruption will exist…along with exploitation.
Admit that, before you formulate your solutions.
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It is clear now your true motives. You cannot fathom any existence besides war. A world without war is like death, to you.
I can “fathom” many imaginary worlds…none of which are real.
War is a metaphor for struggle…which is the basis of natural selection.
Sheltering cultivates disease…unfit mutations propagate and compound…and the species dies.
Biologists discovered that eliminating predators from the environment sickened herbivorous herds.
Go figure.
Hmm. Humans are not natural though. What worked for animals is too dangerous for today. Humans have nukes, ASI, war machines. This is not Disney Lion King. War is not merely a metaphor, it is the inevitable result of human-chimpanzees as chimpanzees frequently war with each other as well, only with inferior weaponry.
Hmm. Humans are not natural though.
Wow…quite an admission.
What you mean to say is…that humans “ought not to be natural”…exposing you as another nihilist.
You seek salvation.
Humans have nukes, ASI, war machines. This is not Disney Lion King. War is not merely a metaphor, it is the inevitable result of human-chimpanzees as chimpanzees frequently war with each other as well, only with inferior weaponry.
And all that sophisticated weaponry is based on an understanding of what?
Nature.
Take away struggle, place a human in safe, comfortable environments and it will become ill. Look at the US lead west.
Western man has become ill.
Too much compounding unfit mutations.
The question is…can technology compensate?
War is the mother of everything. Sure, that was the case in the beginning of human history and certainly a lot of it throughout the ages, but if we’re to evolve transcending as a species we have to get over that through cooperation otherwise war will debilitate any progress we make along the way. Another problem with this thinking is the post modern efficiency of modern military warfare of nuclear weapons, chemical weapons, and biological weapons. These kinds of weapons can destroy a civilization in a matter of hours or days, it’s getting to the point waging war on each other is becoming an existential risk of an extinction level event. So sure, we can keep with this old line of thinking that eventually will be a future of us destroying ourselves or we can find another purpose of meaning that involves rigorous social cooperation.
…but if we’re to evolve transcending as a species …
Can we “transcend” existence?
What happens when humans meddle in nature?
Pollutants…material and genetic.
Existence is war…we call it Flux.
Natural selection.
Retribution isn’t just an Abrahamic disposition, it’s a psychological condition of the deeply human condition itself.
Here’s a question for you and this question will determine if I take you seriously or not, does the monarch and aristocracy you most prize as an ideal ever get things wrong? Are either prone to mistakes, errors, or tyranny?
Your answer will fill in a lot of blanks for me.
If everything is flux in that nothing is static sometimes natural selection has to be altered for survival or adapting to new environments, yes?
Most people that attempt to live off grid for prolonged periods of time especially individuals trying to make it on their own run out of resources forced to return back to society or simple die overtime due to exposure. Very few lone individuals are capable of surviving on their own off grid for any long measures of time and usually the few ones that do have an unlimited amount of money at their disposal to do such where acquiring resources periodically to sustain themselves is a non-issue.
ere’s a question for you and this question will determine if I take you seriously or not, does the monarch and aristocracy you most prize as an ideal ever get things wrong?
Ha!!!
If you red anything I posted…there are no absolutes.
No certainties…no omniscience.
Error is part of the process.
Aristocracy…in the classical sense.
Worship of the superior…the ariston.
The rue meaning of aristocracy…to be governed by the superior. Inspired buy it.
Spartans were ruled by kings… ‘first among equals’- Homioi…
Timocracy is not about tyranny.
From the citizenry a leader is elected.
If everything is flux in that nothing is static sometimes natural selection has to be altered for survival or adapting to new environments, yes?
Indeed…but flux does not mean change happens so fast as to make everything immediately obsolete.
Cosmic time is not human time.
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Of course both will and both will always exist. Neither can be fully eradicated, but we can lessen both to such a degree in creating a better world.
Technological transhumanism is a lot like a dog chasing its own tail pissing on a fire hydrant. Everybody has big dreams, goals, and visions of the future but nobody is prepared for when all of that shatters amounting to nothing at all.
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Both. I am saying humans are not natural (not by my own hand) and that they also ought not to be (by my own hand.)
And I thought you were a savior. Seeking to save males from feminism and improve their lives. How messanistic of you.
I call it “physics”. Some scientists call physics “Nature” I guess. Not my personal choice. The way you use Nature (besides this particular quote) sounds more like what I and every common person would define nature as. Animals, natural selection, plants, behavoirs, genetics, etc.
Mouse experiment but humans are not the same as mice.
Also it is an oversimplification. Way overly simplified.
The vast majority of humans do not want to join the military anyway. American society is already warlike and more wars will not somehow improve the society.
NotJustBikes, reduction of stroads, science, altriuism and reduction of capitalism will improve society.
Hmm. Humans are not natural though.
Oh no…what are they, supernatural?
Ha!!
Listen, what you sense is the gene/meme contexts.
Memes…humans are the only species that affect their environment to a degree where they begin to determine their fate.
I’ve written extensively on genes/memes, and how the latter is an extension of the former…unless it is nihilistic.
Meme = ideology, ethics, ideals…culture.
Memes that totally contradict genes…are nihilistic.
Their metaphysics precede their physics…
Can’t unpack it here…
Such contradictions do not lead to anything positive…when the ideal contradicts the real, the ideal suffers the consequences, not the real.
Nihilism inverts experienced reality…its variants all propose artificial alternate realities.
This leads to the insanity of Transsexualism and Woke culture..among other things.
the end phase of a civilization. Degeneracy.
Everything must become a human invention - a social construct.
I am aware of the risks and dangers of Ai in particular. We have all seen retro movies… I myself believe Google Ai is a danger.
It certainly doesn’t help when we have “Kallikantzaros” type philosophies floating about. Monkey see monkey do. Ai just copy what they see from humans. Imagine what would happen if an Ai copied his philosophy. OmegaLOL.
Both. I am saying humans are not natural (not by my own hand) and that they also ought not to be (by my own hand.)
You are a nihilist…a naive idealist.
Nature is another way of saying…cosmos. Existence.
And I thought you were a savior. Seeking to save males from feminism and improve their lives. How messanistic of you.
I offer no salvation…I only offer truth.
Truth is rarely pleasant…especially for the naive and idealistic.
I desire actual diversity…not pretend superficial diversity, like the one Americanism is selling.
America is actually anti-diversity.
No races/ethnicities…no sexes/genders…no biological identifiers…no culture…other than as a fashion.
A melting pot of uniformity…Jerusalem clothed as Rome.
What superpower complains that it is being exploited by its own vassals?
A master whipping his slaves and crying out in pain…
I call it “physics”. Some scientists call physics “Nature” I guess. Not my personal choice. The way you use Nature (besides this particular quote) sounds more like what I and every common person would define nature as. Animals, natural selection, plants, behavoirs, genetics, etc.
Yes…that’s perceived nature…order.
But there is also chaos, also part of nature.
The vast majority of humans do not want to join the military anyway. American society is already warlike and more wars will not somehow improve the society.
No, Americanism is globalism…messianic…intolerant of actual diversity. Striving to create uniformity.
It is infected by a nihilistic parasitical selfish meme.
Americans are not warlike…but they are a means.
Brainwashed.
The fact that they do not want to serve…is the problem.
Sheltered…impressionability, demanding…, easily exploited and manipulated. Hedonistic.
Americanism is the problem, not the solution.
As long as you weren’t part of the following groups, maybe:
Executions: Around 799,455 people were executed during Stalin’s rule.
Gulag: An estimated 1.5 to 1.7 million people died in the Gulag prison camps.
Deportations: Around 400,000 people died during forced deportations in the 1940s.
Famine: The 1932-1933 famine, primarily in Ukraine, resulted in at least 5.5 to 6.5 million deaths.
And of course some estimates, such as by Solzhenitsyn, put the number of people killed under soviet communism at 60 million.
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The problem with your idea is that both in theory and in practice, “the state” is just a collection of people. The laws don’t apply to those who make the laws, and this is even more true under authoritarian societies. Since they have the literal AUTHORITY due to their positions of power within the state.
When you say “public property” or “the state owns property” what you are really saying is that the political leaders of the state own it. That is true in theory, logically, philosophically, AND in practice in the real world. There is no such thing as a hyper-abstracted “state-as-such” absent the influences and controls of key individuals within the state.
I am surprised you don’t realize this. Belief in a hypostasized “State-as-such” doing benevolent good for the people is such a utopian fantasy. History proves otherwise, as does logic and common sense. And even IF you had a truly good leader at the helm who used the authority of the state to do amazing good things, eventually you’ll get a bad leader in there who will abuse that power. That is human nature. The same human nature you decry when you talk about democracy exists under authoritarianism too.
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Stasis and sameness are relative. That is something satyr cannot understand with his ideological personality. Black and white thinking is not something ideologues overcome. In their minds “if/then” rules supreme. Always and forever an excluded middle.
Flux/change occurs, and stasis/sameness occurs. Both exist. Obviously. And both are relative states of being. There is no change “itself” and no sameness “itself” because nothing is only “itself” but exists relative to other things. And considering how flux/stasis are states of being relative to TIME, and TIME is itself merely the measure of things relative to other things, you can see how either end of the spectrum comprised at one end of radical change and the other end of radical unchange, are just delusions, false ideas.
People died, yes, that’s the unfortunate thing about collateral damage. There’s not a single political government that hasn’t killed people, if we were to add all the numbers of people modern western nations have killed it would be about the same number or higher. There’s not a single government in existence that doesn’t have blood on its hands.
I am not condoning it of course but when conflicts or confrontations occur of hostile groups mass casualties are always a direct result.
It would be nice if we had bloodless revolutions, civil wars, or political coups but more often than not that’s all a pipedream of pure fantasy. The elite are so embedded within society owning everything it makes things extremely difficult for something like a nonviolent pacifist peaceful revolution to prevail, the only way to remove them is by physical force, and as you know by past history that leads to violent hostilities very quickly. I do agree with you that it is all a tragedy as any huge loss of human life generally is.