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Of course timing does, otherwise how could a book ever be funny?

The only difference between reading a written joke and hearing a joke is that you are reading the former. That, and the written joke has to actually be a better joke to be genuinely funny because it is more difficult to establish tone in a written joke. In any case, in a written joke you have to time how much build-up to the punchline.

No, but deciding to find work certainly betters his chances.

I’m pretty sure that’s not how it works.

I believe I mentioned group homes. I happened to walk past one today, a block from where my mother ran her program. You can have an underfunded large mental institution or an underfunded small group home. The difference is that residents can walk away from the latter. And there is only so much you can do about that. Sometimes even crazy people wish to make decisions for themselves, and those decisions aren’t necessarily neat and tidy. Just like uncrazy people.

My point in this thread is that there are many reasons why we have homeless people. It doesn’t boil down to Ronald Reagan or even to everyone who votes Republican. The problem with american politics, especially american message board politics, is that each side blames the other for everything that goes wrong, and that each side claims that they alone have all the answers.

But one of the rights that liberals bestowed upon the mentally ill was the right to commit crimes.

What liberals seem to want is to make the lives of the mentally ill “successful” at all costs. But you can’t direct every aspect of a mentally ill person’s life and give them complete freedom at the same time.

California has always been a problem state, however. Maybe when they get real about the Second Amendment they’ll get some sensible people back in that state.

Yeah, some Republicans are dummards, some Democrats are dummards.

Mostly, people are just looking out for their own interests and want to have policies that reflect their interests, or at least their moral code. Think about this, do you think that a single Mother of four with three different Fathers on welfare is going to vote no on a Social Services levy against property owners?

I doubt it.

Is this single Mother of four where there are three different Fathers necessarily a smart person?

I’m sure she could be a smart person who just makes bad decisions, but in most cases, no.

Anyway, I want you to know that you are seriously underestimating Impenitent’s intelligence (in my opinion) because you disagree with his political views and are patently unimpressed with him stylistically. I disagree with many of Impenitent’s political views as well, and I do wish he’d occasionally put more detail into certain posts, but he’s truly a brilliant guy.

Point is, Social Sciences is Faust’s Board. If there is a post in Social Sciences that you feel should be in Mundane Babble or the Rant House, the best course of action is to PM Faust with that suggestion. From what I know of Faust, he’ll tell you one way or another and briefly explain why. He’s a fair guy.

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Faust: I believe I mentioned group homes. I happened to walk past one today, a block from where my mother ran her program. You can have an underfunded large mental institution or an underfunded small group home. The difference is that residents can walk away from the latter. And there is only so much you can do about that. Sometimes even crazy people wish to make decisions for themselves, and those decisions aren’t necessarily neat and tidy. Just like uncrazy people.

My point in this thread is that there are many reasons why we have homeless people. It doesn’t boil down to Ronald Reagan or even to everyone who votes Republican. The problem with american politics, especially american message board politics, is that each side blames the other for everything that goes wrong, and that each side claims that they alone have all the answers.

But one of the rights that liberals bestowed upon the mentally ill was the right to commit crimes.

What liberals seem to want is to make the lives of the mentally ill “successful” at all costs. But you can’t direct every aspect of a mentally ill person’s life and give them complete freedom at the same time.

California has always been a problem state, however. Maybe when they get real about the Second Amendment they’ll get some sensible people back in that state"

K: You seem to be blaming California for all the bad judgements in regards to the treatment of mental illness. So how was California guilty in ruining
the lives of the mentally ill? And how the hell does getting real about the second amendment get “sensible” people back into california?

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You’re obsessed with timing like Faust. I don’t know what it is about amateur comedians that makes them think after 0 years man and boy under the belt they are the worlds greatest living expert on comedy in any medium, sad really. Even timing is subjective and a matter of contention amongst comedians as to how it works best. Books are funny because the jokes are inherently funny in any format, not because of comedy timing which only applies to stand up and the like.

I feel this is way beside the point though.

what?

That’s a problem with America then and its almost criminal fear of the word society. Didn’t Adam Smith say there is no such thing as society, before Margaret “the source of all evil in the world” Thatcher ripped it off in her famous “it’s mine my precious speech.” Bit of a planet really. :wink:

I’ll take your word for it I’ve seen nothing else?

I think actually I saved this thread from dullness if not dumbness so I don’t care any more. I am a hero. :unamused:

I’m not an amateur comedian, I hardly qualify as a novice. But, as the man said, “I may not know comedy, but I know what makes me laugh.” I think that might have been Werklempter, you’d have to ask Faust.

Sure timing is subjective, but what about comedy is objective? The whole concept of whether or not something is even funny is a subjective concept. I don’t think that any joke is inherently funny in any format or context, I think that’s still subjective. Look for the funniest joke that you can find in a book, now I want you to wait until you have a friend whose spouse dies, show him/her that joke at the showing.

We’ll see if it is funny then.

Your context seems to be, PC, which is cool, a lot of people are about the PCness. Due to the possiblity that you may be about the PCness, you did not think the joke in the OP is funny. Whether or not PCness is important is, of course, subjective.

I try to be PC, but it doesn’t always work. I also try not to be sexist because the broads hate that. I slip up every now and again, but it’s a work in progress.

That’s a problem with America then and its almost criminal fear of the word society. Didn’t Adam Smith say there is no such thing as society, before Margaret “the source of all evil in the world” Thatcher ripped it off in her famous “it’s mine my precious speech.” Bit of a planet really. :wink:
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You have to want to understand what Imp is saying to understand it.

Definitely. Had it not been for your posts, this thread wouldn’t have gone this long. Besides, I’m having fun bullshitting with you.

I think you can plainly see by this thread I am anything but PC when annoyed.

And yes context is important which is why I think the joke should of had a disclaimer warning: “this is likely not funny unless you are a Republican or have low standards on what constitutes funny”. Watching a monkey fall to its death is funny to some primates I’m sure.

How very Zen.

That’s nice.

What’s the monkey falling off of? What is he landing on?

Jesus Christ! I don’t even need to know, just reading the words, “Monkey fall to its death,” had me in stitches!

I’m sorry, but that is just hilarious! Could you imagine the sound a monkey would make falling to its death?

Was that Zen?

Sweet!

I’m Zen.

Or, do I have Zen?

Sure is. I’d drink a beer with you anytime, Sidhe!

Like I said I lack the gene for shardenfreuder. So I have no idea why that is funny to some primates. I don’t however think my lack of humour in this area is indicative of humour generally. If you think that’s funny then so be it.Some people apparently in the world think The Life of Brian is not funny. I find that amazing, but I don’t think they are mentally deficient, well not very anyway.

Now and Zen.

Now that was painfully lame and should have a disclaimer.

As you can tell from this thread I only do wine. Fnar.

Bdum bdum bdiddly dum tish.

I was kidding. It might be funny if it was a cartoon monkey or a gimmick of some kind, but I wouldn’t want to see an actual monkey fall to its death. Monkeys are pretty cool, especially the ones that can be trained to ride around on your shoulder all over the place.

But, like you said, it is not indicative of your humour generally. Again, humor is completely subjective. I imagine you have a pretty good flair for sarcasm, which is one of my favorite types of humor when employed correctly.

LOL

That, by the way, was hilarious. “That’s nice.”

I say that all the time in real life, especially when something bad happens. It’s my way of dealing with it. For instance, if I call my wife from work and she says, Kevin refuses to go to bed, he’s irate and he just broke one of the CD cases from your Metallica Live Shit Binge & Purge Box Set.

“Oh, that’s nice.”

Sidhe will be here all night. And remember, the dollar slots give the best odds in the house, but play with your head not over it!

Wine? I can’t remember the last time I had wine. I mean, I know when it was, I just can’t remember it.

Apparently, Merlot is not to be chugged.

Could we settle for some liquor? Maybe a nice Godfather, or Screwdriver or something?

By the way, have you ever tried 7-Up with Cherry Vodka? That’s what I had last night.

Peter - I wasn’t blaming California - Ingenium was. I was just responding to that. It’s a democracy. But if the people of California are having trouble interpreting the Constitution, maybe it’s not the Constitution’s fault, but the people’s fault. I mean, you gotta admit - California’s a mess right now. Politically, I mean. I think you should think about splitting in two. Second Amendment issues are bellwethers. Make two states - one where you can carry guns and one where you can’t. It’s what you got now, anyway.

You heard me.