God is ultimately the one true being that has created us all. There is no one above him. He lives and breathed us into life. A divine being full of love and compassion, He is strong and never would forsake us.
Alright, I guess we can stop doing philosophy, then!
But who created god?
And, given that it is full of love, can the same be said about lack of love?
No, you right, you right.
ā¦there is absolutely zero origin to anything. The idea of an origin without origin is absolutely absurd. ā¦especially an origin that can actually will that things happen ā¦because mechanistically it would have to be the origin of all mechanism.
I donāt suppose you believe in perpetual motion?
ā¦nothing can be said about a lack of love unless fullness of love is actual.
āAnd, given that it is full of love, can the same be said about lack of love?ā
Indeed, for he who loves god should not endeavor that god love him in return. Thus, a genuine understanding of god would prohibit any moralizing, and the immanent power of god would be, in effect, acting through the greatest criminal, the most hated and forlorn by god. You could say that he who observes the wretchedness of godās creation has the most adequate knowledge of god.
Blessed is he who does not Neil before the old notions of god but infuses himself with god⦠the greatest of all Dionysians and Shivas?
We love because they first love(s) us. This is not a quid pro quo. This is about origins. Weāre not the origin⦠how solipsistic⦠how narcissistic⦠how anthropomorphic⦠how arrogant⦠to think the origin is incapable of or beyond loving us, and lowering our standard for what that means, so that we can remain oblivious as pigs in mud.
God is, was, and forever will be [ā¦] an open ended theoretical possibility that cannot be proven pro or contra.
One^ example of oblivion. Letās just forget all the deductive arguments for Godās existence.
Making an argument for rejecting, removing, disregarding arguments and logical thought is a goal to nowhere and to nothing.
If i wanted to work within that framing, iād straight call you the antichrist recruiting for the demise of the world with the notion ājust listen and believe, lest i call you a heathen for not doing so and skin you aliveā.
Thats not how this works.
You can believe anything you like. Its your birth right.
But you dont get to tell others that they are āobliviousā for refusing to follow you blindly and without question. Thats satanās playbook my dude.
ā¦youāre the one saying that Godās eternal existence is an open-ended theoretical possibility that cannot be proven pro or contra.
In order to assert that, you have to forget all the deductive arguments for his existence.
I dont need to go into any of that.
Bring god here. Tell him to announce himself. To prove his existence.
Show me god. Its an entity that is the literal owner of the universe, the creator which stands above, omniscient, omnipotent, can do whatever he wishes at any time, at zero cost.
So proving his own existence that there is no question about it, is something he could effortlessly do.
And he does not.
He is not here.
He is not stopping me from asking.
He is not interjecting or replying to this post.
He is not appearing in the sky, telling everyone that āyo btw the bible is realā.
Sorry.
Im already doing you a favor by not ruling out the existence of a god which has no direct proof, only at best circumstantial evidence.
You wanna believe in him?
More power to you.
Absolutely your birthright to do and choose so.
But not when it comes to the open market of ideas.
Either you can prove a claim you make, or you can be thankful that other people are entertaining it as a hypothetical possibility regardless of it being unproven.
Cause gnostic atheists would simply say that the burden of proof lies with the one who makes the claim, and if there is no proof for the claim, it can be disregarded at will.
Agnostic atheists are at least willing to go at this objectively and say that you cannot prove your claim, and they cannot disprove it because we do not have that kind of information and/or direct proof.
So.
Purely from a logical standpoint.
God is a possibility, and even he exists, he has no wish to unveil himself for everyone to erase all doubts, even tho he could do so at a whim.
Gaia, Cronos.
I think you might want to rethink your statement. If God is the one true being, then all others are false, and if God is the creator of everything, then everything it created is false. Thatās what your statement is saying. Also, we donāt call beings ātrueā or āfalseā. Truth is an attribute of propositions, not things.
Okay. Pick the one youād be more likely to take seriously and least likely to doubt::
A. God randomly steps out from behind a tree without warning just for this occasion, has nothing important to say or do.
B. God gives advance warnings, make sure itās recorded for anybody that missed it, does what he says heās gonna do, makes sure thatās recorded too, and when he shows up again (apart from the usual sustaining the entire universe gig) actually has something important to say and do that aināt nobody missin this time.
She didnāt use the word āfalseā, though; only you did. And ātrueā can also have other antonyms than āfalseā.
Moreover, what she wrote is this:
This can be parsed in multiple ways. You apparently parse it as follows:
{the one true being} {that has created us all}.
But she may well have meant this:
{the one true {being that has created us all}}.
⦠or you could just take it as ārealā instead of imaginary.
Nah, Iāll leave it to you to take imaginary things as ārealā. ![]()
Hee haw.
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At that point, it would be inductive probability rather than proof, butā¦
It is reasonable to expect that someone with a gazillion deductive proofs in favor of their being is going to demonstrate/exist their nature/essence in their beingābecause essence is not being (and vice versa) without (drumroll please) ā¦existential import (particular demonstration).
āGod gives advance warnings, make sure itās recorded for anybody that missed it, does what he says heās gonna do, makes sure thatās recorded tooā
Hey⦠i do the same thing! How cool is that?