This Eastern Orthodox was complaining to me on quora several years ago about how oppressive the USSR was on Christianity. At the time I was not anti-Abrahamic, so I thought that was kind of bad.
But now I see why the USSR did that.
This Eastern Orthodox was complaining to me on quora several years ago about how oppressive the USSR was on Christianity. At the time I was not anti-Abrahamic, so I thought that was kind of bad.
But now I see why the USSR did that.
Some communist nations have incorporated religion and spirituality into their societies, others not so much.
Itâs true some communist nations were severely atheistic and the reason for that is because they took an extreme hard stance of philosophical dialectic materialism where they sought to exclude religion altogether from society. In my opinion that was a mistake and error where becoming overly zealous with dialectic materialism is folly.
Dialectic materialism was meant to be a guide to follow, not some hammer you use to bludgeon the heads of others with.
Much like any other political structure in the world Marxists and communists have made some mistakes, as a modern follower of both I seek in my own philosophy to learn from those mistakes not to repeat them. ![]()
Itâs true, in Soviet Russia they heavily suppressed Orthodox Christianity.
I have made it known on this forum my disdain for Christianity, Islam, and Judaism, nonetheless, I would never force people to adopt my beliefs.
I would never strip a person of their religion by force even if they are a Christian, Muslim, or Jew. The best way to win hearts and minds of people is to get people to want to change themselves by their own reconnaissance. People have to want to change, forcing them to do things typically doesnât work.
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Well I donât.
That is a large reason why I think Estonia, Mongolia, and other countries where Abrahamism is low or nearly non-existent are among the most peaceful countries. They are at peace with their neighbours. They do not have a religion of war instigating angst and aggressiveness. Russia tried its best to keep the Eastern Orthodox church down, but it crept back up into everyday Russian life. Same with many other Eastern European countries. Estonia was one of the only ones that retained its conversion TO NON ABRAHAMISM, AN EXTREMELY RARE FORTUNATE OCCURENCE LIKE A MOISSANITE formed in the earth. that rarely happens that people deconvert from Christianity, and stay that way. Czech Republic / Czechia became like that too. The Netherlands is trying to, itâs a battleground state about 50 / 50, but now atheists and agnostics outnumber Christians one of the only European countries where itâs like that.
I know - we have our differences.
Thatâs easy to say until you talk to those Christians, Muslims, and Jews.
They are solid rock. Can you change the mind of a narcissist that is programmed to destroy, through persuasion?
No. Thatâs laughable.
As I said, they have to want to change on their own, and if they donât want to that is well within their right. But of course, that doesnât mean you have to associate with them either.
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Look at it this way - are the countries that were Christian and now mostly atheist more or less peaceful today? The countries that were largely Christian but many deconverted like Estonia, the Netherlands, and Czechia?
That may be a little hard comparing the European nations because many of them are under NATO and the EU.
Use history and compare it to today.
One will try to squirmish out of what Iâm saying by pointing out to other things, such as nuclear weapons and technology to justify the occurrence of peace in these countries.
I donât think so.
obviously, but only on a personal level.
I have to pay taxes to the US government, who are mostly Christian, to fund Christian wars abroad , Zionist wars whatever. Most people are anti-homosexual, because of the Bible which again opens me to discrimination and un recognition because of those religions. I think when most people are Christian, the majority gets its way to the detriment of the minority. Because thatâs the way democracy works.
I at least make it known my anti-Abrahamism to at least show I try to separate myself from it as much as possible. But in a community where people like me are outnumbered, sometimes we are forced into wars caused by them and we have no choice but to be in it.
In otherwords, my government and my taxes paid to them funds Christian philosophy, even in an indirect way. I donât like it - but thatâs the world.
There will always be conflict, social utopia is unachievable. Even in nations where Christianity, Judaism, or Islam is virtually nonexistent, human conflict nonetheless still persists. We all try to make the world better in our own ways, we all just disagree severely on the ways to do it.
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Aside from Hinduism, not much.
And that can be shown.
I can understand the sentiment. ![]()
Although the population of Vietnam is officially atheist, many people are classified as religiously unaffiliated or non-religious. In practice, however, most Vietnamese people engage in folk religious practices, ancestor worship and rituals influenced by Buddhism, Confucianism and Taoism, even if they do not identify with an organised religion.
It is estimated that around 29â30% of the population is religiously unaffiliated or atheist, while nearly half officially identify as followers of folk or traditional religions. According to scholars and local sources, calling Vietnam âatheistâ is misleading since spiritual practices and beliefs in various supernatural forces, ancestors and deities are widespread, even among the unaffiliated.
Buddhism and Christianity share core values like compassion and love. Buddhist mindfulness and the Christian Holy Spirit represent the one reality. Jesus and Buddha are both exemplars of wisdom and nondual awareness. Buddhist interbeing and the Christian Trinity are parallel concepts illustrating the interconnectedness of all things. Spiritual practices from both traditions can lead to inner peace and a deeper understanding of the self and others.
If you remain outside, you donât see the similarities. If you submit yourself, you recognise the unity.
Last I checked Buddhists donât believe in apocalyptic end times or eternal hell for non-believers. There are distinctions and differences for both belief structures.
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You are looking on Christianity from the outside.
I was raised Catholic on my motherâs side of the family, pretty sure thatâs what they believe inside of those churches. ![]()
âHolland is another amateur playing at knowing what heâs talking about. He has no degrees in history, and no advanced degrees whatever. He has a bachelors in English and Latin poetry. He dabbled in getting a Ph.D. in Byron but gave up. No shame in that; but it still doesnât qualify you to talk about ancient history, or even medieval.â
No, Tom Holland, It Wasnât Christian Values That Saved the West ⢠Richard Carrier Blogs