How does time pass without it all happening instantly at once?

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Time passing is change occuring, change is when something turns into another thing.

But either the thing causing that change is in existence already which means it instantly eternally was already turned into the other thing which means there was no change from one thing to another

Or, the thing causing the change isn’t in existence which means it never changed

but those two options mean change never happened, and those are the only two options to choose right? and we know change and time is passing happens in real life

so what is the solution?

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Contextual Equivocation; Identity as Relative Tautologies
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How could change occur without …time?

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i mean that change and time are the same thing

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Being that is Time is at (is the substance of) every time t at once (but not all in one time t) subsuming/subsisting all times t.

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Maybe it is all happening instantly at once, and you just feel like it’s happening one moment at a time subjectively

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yes but even then “all happening instantly at once” means things exist and don’t exist at the same time

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never at the same time, t

and information blending between times t is not the same thing as active instantiation of the information/what the information is the shape of

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The logical solution is that change indeed doesn’t exist, it’s just one of the most basic illusions of life. We can think of the past and the future as block-universe extensions of the present. Humans can only experience life and form memories along the arrow of time and entropy, so it’s natural for us to perceive life as constant change, heading from the past towards the future.

The 100% logical solution is to add that all dimensions should be circular. Eternal return, eternal cyclical universes etc. are illogical ideas because the temporal dimension isn’t circular, but they are fun to think about. Neither Western nor Eastern philosophy understands circular time.

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i dont understand this. are you saying everything is eternally still, then what after that?

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Lets play a little game and see if you can figure out what this means in the context of your question:

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There’s no before or after. All movement happens within the eternal. It’s all a during.

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each square in the comic book happens at different times, but they all exist at the same time?

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Omnipresent being exists at all times, just like they exist at all places (being the ground of both), whereas our existence is limited to our times and places (being contingent in the ground).

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Well done. Correct.
There is the notion that time is simply a dimension above the 3rd.
A higher dimensional being could easily perceive it the same way you perceive a book.

It is technically correct that the events in the book are happening in sequence as per causality, yet from a higher dimension you can hold the entire thing in your hand as one single moment, one single book.

So does time happen all at once or not? Is that possibly simply a question of perspective and relativity the same way the interior of a moving car is stationary for you, but moving for someone who is standing by the road and looking at you drive by?

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I think yous all are using temporal language to describe extratemporal things. It doesn’t all happen at once, because time is sequential.

You can describe segments of time as a single object though, certainly. Quantic analysis does this very thing. In fact it also often cuts it up and draws strange graphs of it.

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but then what is the solution?

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To vat?

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i mean to the original post. Like how does it happen sequentially?

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How does time happen sequentially?

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yes how does time pass sequentially I mean? like you are saying that time passes sequentially but we cannot talk about it because our language is itself part of time?