Delusional hypocritical hippy.
John Lennon can go fuck himself in hell.
I’m off this thread–smells too much like sulfur.
tyrannus-----why don’t you go to the other sites to play games…
Actually what other place then here to mediate: it cuts both ways: we do a lot of pretending and posturing, and there is some hypocrisy, but ultimately. How else could we run business if not by overcoming obstacles and trying to work things out?
The love that’s binding is elemental, primary. Naturally that is our main concern, but our secondary concerns really become first, because is it not, through the roles, the games we play, that we earn the trust and the values with which we can nourish our primary concerns, notions and affiliations?
if someone comes into your territory and they just intend to destroy… then they need to be put out…tyrannus is a problem for me…if I heard what his intentions are I could then evaluate…I have seen nothing that is constructive…obe----what have you seen from tyrannus…
It’s always possible to attribute to someone a self-interested motive, for their actions. For example, you could say that the soldier who runs into crossfire risking his life to save another, or who jumps on a grenade to save the rest----you can say that he isn’t actually doing anything except collecting his paycheck, or getting into heaven, or some other bullshit like that. —But that doesn’t mean that the made-up fake bullshit that you attributed to him is actually his motive. His motive could be helping other people. It certainly looks that way. And that’s why you need to justify what you say.
Here’s an analogy to what you’re doing…
Suppose I say that everyone has green hair. (Just like you say that everyone is self-interested). Someone tells me that it doesn’t look that way. I can always respond by saying, “Yo, but they’re wearing a wig, bruah—they just don’t want you to know”. That person should tell me to try to prove what I’m saying. (Just as I’m telling you to prove what you’re saying). And the fact that some people actually do have green hair, is no justification of what you are saying about ALL people.
This is reasonable. But it is also reasonable [to me] to suggest his motive [whatever it is] is rooted largely in dasein. And, whatever his motive [or whatever he does], there is no way to establish philosophically that he ought to have done this. Or that others ought to do it as well. Or that he [they] ought to do something else instead.
All motives are always rooted in dasein
There is, because dasein is rooted in something much deeper… your physiology.
True. At least with respect to why someone will fall on the grenade while others will not. Or the reasons each individual gives for either doing so or not doing so.
Well, I’ll continue to make the crucial distinction here between, “John fell on the grenade and saved the lives of his comrades” [he either did or he did not], and, “what John did here is something we are all morally obligated to do.”
To which you seem to rejoin: “While we can establish objectively whether John did the right thing here, each new grenade in each new set of circumstances can only be adjudged as a separate event.”
Which really doesn’t make much practical sense [to me] when trying to decide the relevance of objective morality.
Trying to get rid of me?
What’s so wrong with Tyrannus?
I am just talking, exchanging opinions, and expressing myself just like everybody else.
Ah, you are correct. I’ve come not to bring peace, but instead a sword in this loveless world.
The world isn’t loveless, and even where love is rare, that doesn’t render it any less valid.
Assuming that it is rare and mystical, it must be so exceedingly rare that it can never be seen.
Allot of the intelligent humans on the earth are subject to extremism.
You seem to have an extremism also. Low expectations on any positive outcome. You live in a world of spite.
Intelligence is a polarity of consciousness. But it takes extra skill to iron it out and perfect it.
How old are you anyways? Because your ideas seem like that of a young person.
I’m middle aged almost actually. Disagree with everything else you said, but whatever.
A good tool to particpate in the lovelessness.
A good tool to particpate in the lovelessness.
Of course swords are no longer used in today’s combat, unless you count a bayonet as a sword at the end of a gun, but the statement itself is one of symbolic destruction for it is the destruction of this current world I praise. Just one of many emblems of my embraced philosophy.