I kept on hearing, well at least in my democractic state, Bush is wrong to be our president. The only reason he became president was the mid east of us, their stupid. If Bush was stupid, he would not be able to win.
Should voting be change in a new way?
Not to be a grammar/spelling nazi . . . but would you mind editing that post to make more sense?
As to what I think you are asking: 1) Connections 2) He is not as dumb as people make him out to be (himself included).
Mostly 1, though.
well considering the majority of the population is hugely uneducated concerning politics and considering the fact that hes not actually in control of his campaign or in some sense responsible for his image on t.v. it sort of doesnt surprise me. i mean the idea that won the cons over was “kerry is a flip flopper”. a childrens book couldnt get more juvenile.
it doesn’t take a smart person to win a popularity contest, which is what most any election at most levels end up being. and by ‘smart’ i am meaning a politically savvy mind, not just IQ, which i’m sure Bush has plenty of.
with the majority of the united states voting for a political leader based on moral issues instead of political issues (political issues governing who to vote in to a political seat … interesting concept) is why the popularity aspect plays out as it does.
in every election there are hundreds of people better capable of being the executive head of the nation yet don’t stand a fighting chance due to lack of marketing abilities. anyone put into a position that deals with one aspect, be it politics, law, medicine, construction, etc, yet entered that position via a channel that was not determined by their abilities in that field is simply the wrong person for the job.
I heard, that the democratic are for the poor, and the republican are for the rich.
If you are living in a city and poor, you should vote for democratic, if you are living in the suburbs and have a buisness , you should vote for republicans. Is this idea true?
More-or-less. Cities vote overwhealmingly democratic.
However, it is not purely a class issue. It is also a race issue (the Republican party has a poor record on civil rights), a religious issue (the Republican party likes to make people think they have a monopoly on Jesus), as well as a few other assorted wedge issues (military involvement, gun ownership, ect.)
dan020350:I heard, that the democratic are for the poor, and the republican are for the rich.
K: that is not exactly right. If you care about the direction of
america, then you should vote democratic. Listen
to the GOP rhetoric over the last 25 years, the only thing
they truly care about is tax cuts for the wealthy. The GOP
is first and foremost about tax cuts. A $10 donation from anybody
will change their vote on any other subject, but on tax cuts
they are firm. And the funny thing about tax cuts, they have
never been shown to help the economy in any way, shape or form.
They are simply giveaways to the wealthy, welfare for the rich.
D: If you are living in a city and poor, you should vote for democratic, if you are living in the suburbs and have a business , you should vote for republicans. Is this idea true?
K: democrats are interested in saving the middle and lower class
from the raping of america by the wealthy. Can anyone say
halliburton? The GOP is wrong about Iraq, the economy, education
(left millions of children behind) terrorism, national defense,
the environment, energy policies, and welfare for the rich programs.
If you care about america, you should vote democratic.
Kropotkin
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robert kkk byrd democRAT from WV fillibustered the civil rights bill.
learn some real history, if it wasn’t for the republican party, civil rights never would have passed.
fuck jesus. the state is not a charity.
-Imp
No one here is discussing the parties as they were during the civil right’s movement. The Southern Democrat wing of the Democratic party is dead at this point.
They are discussing them as they are now and as the parties set themselves up to be:
Reagan’s first appearance during the general election campaign was where?
Bush Jr. praising Strom Thurmond, so much so that he hosted his 100th B-day.
Lott’s unfortunate comment shortly there-after. Which took people a while to wake up to. A long while.
Bush’s reluctance to appear before the NAACP.
Yeah, the Democrats are the racists.
they are, but you’ll never see that
-Imp
stereotypes are fun!
Xunzian: No one here is discussing the parties as they were during the civil right’s movement.
IMP: They are discussing them as they are now.
IMP: you made the claim that the republicans had a poor record on civil rights. I showed you the fact that if it weren’t for the republicans, there’d be no civil rights."
K: and if pigs could fly… and if there were no blacks there would also
be no civil rights, your argument is weak as the civil rights act
was passed in 1960s, uh, 65 or 66, which I recall a certain
LBJ as being pres and the democrats had congress at the time.
X: Reagan’s first appearance during the general election campaign was where?
IMP: california?"
K: no idea either.
Bush Jr. praising Strom Thurmond, so much so that he hosted his 100th B-day.
IMP: and the democRATS calling robert KKK byrd, the only senator who was in the klan, their party’s historical elder statesman of the senate? the klansman himself is the one who fillibustered against civil rights; the democRATS are the one with the klan connections, not the republicans.
K: try as you might, strom had klan connections as well as
trent lott. The GOP has very strong kkk connections.
Byrd has repudated and has been a very strong voice for civil rights
today and has been for 20+ years. Trying to convict with old news
is typical and not surprizing.
X:Lott’s unfortunate comment shortly there-after. Which took people a while to wake up to. A long while.
IMP: lott’s comment was immediately taken out of context. the democRATS who love robert KKK byrd tried to run lott out of town while coddling the only member of the ku klux klan in the senate. talk about civil rights."
K: Yah, out of context. Thats the usual plea, in fact charles barkely
said he was taken out of context in his autobiography!
You were taken out of context when you said, Viva la revolution!
You actually meant something else.
X: Bush’s reluctance to appear before the NAACP.
IMP: the naacp is a radical leftist group. bush hangs out with colored people everyday. HIS CABINET."
K: yah, any group trying to improve the lot of its members
are certainly radical leftists. This is well know, in fact
the AARP is being investigated for being well known leftists.
X: Yeah, the Democrats are the racists."
K: quite clearly, the GOPhers are racists.
All you have to do is look at not the rhetoric, but
the actions and action are clear.
Kropotkin
I say both parties suck and the writers of the West Wing and/or Steven Colbert should be in charge of running the nation. :D/
again, I have the actual senate voting record as proof. what do you have besides name calling?
-Imp
K: and if pigs could fly… and if there were no blacks there would also
be no civil rights, your argument is weak as the civil rights act
was passed in 1960s, uh, 65 or 66, which I recall a certain
LBJ as being pres and the democrats had congress at the time.
IMP: 1964. I have the ACTUAL SENATE VOTE as proof. you have party propaganda and lies."
K: You are trying so hard it actually getting kinda funny.
Perhaps you could join george allen jr senate campaign
as he certainly didn’t mean any harm calling that young
man, a “shithead” if you believe his version and if you believe
other versions, much worse.
IMP: and the democRATS calling robert KKK byrd, the only senator who was in the klan, their party’s historical elder statesman of the senate? the klansman himself is the one who fillibustered against civil rights; the democRATS are the one with the klan connections, not the republicans.
K: you are cracking me up. Don’t you have something perhaps
a little more current then say, 50 years ago. I like how you
are working so hard. Who exactly are you trying to convince?
The GOP has been quite clearly at war with blacks for decades.
And blacks voting record shows this, as the GOP gets less
then 10% of the black vote. You don’t vote for those at war
with you.
K: try as you might, strom had klan connections as well as
trent lott.
IMP: evidence?"
K: LOL, now you are funny. Strom admitted it,
but not before getting some black women pregnant
which left him with a love child who is 70 something.
IMP: The GOP has very strong kkk connections.
IMP: evidence?"
K: oh stop it, you are cracking me up. The GOP is totally
a white only party these days. I recall the last presidential
convention and the cameras would keep panning to the only
5 blacks in the convention hall and I mentioned the fact that the
GOP got less then 10% black vote. It seems blacks don’t
like the GOP party any more then the GOP likes blacks.
K: Byrd has repudated and has been a very strong voice for civil rights
today and has been for 20+ years. Trying to convict with old news
is typical and not surprizing.
IMP: no, byrd was the only actual member of the klan. not thurmond and not lott. only the democRAT byrd was in the klan. you can’t handle the truth?"
K: did you do that with your best Jack nicholson imitation?
You can’t handle the truth? YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH?
A 90 year old white man from the south, wow he may have
belong to the KKK. Stop the presses. Breaking news,
A white man may have belonged to the KKK. That is surely
troubling. When I lived in FLA,(1970) we had dealings with
the klan and not in a good way, and they were
pretty strong in those day in FLA. So who knew a 90 year old
man from the south might have joined? Golly, what breaking
news you have there.
X:Lott’s unfortunate comment shortly there-after. Which took people a while to wake up to. A long while.
IMP: lott’s comment was immediately taken out of context. the democRATS who love robert KKK byrd tried to run lott out of town while coddling the only member of the ku klux klan in the senate. talk about civil rights."
K: Yah, out of context. That’s the usual plea, in fact charles barkely
said he was taken out of context in his autobiography!
You were taken out of context when you said, Viva la revolution!
You actually meant something else.
IMP: the only thing out of your context is your support for the party with only klansman"
K: you are trying awfully hard. I am secure with the democratic party
being for the average American and against discrimination.
You can stay with the all white party of the GOP. It doesn’t hurt
me in the least. I don’t even need to lie like you.
K: yah, any group trying to improve the lot of its members
are certainly radical leftists. This is well know, in fact
the AARP is being investigated for being well known leftists.
IMP: investigated by whom? it is obvious to anyone who looks"
K: yah, those evil AARP MEMBERs who are trying to bring
back communism. Kill them all. Oh, wait, I will be old
enough to join in less then 3 years, I better be nice to them.
X: Yeah, the Democrats are the racists."
K: quite clearly, the GOPhers are racists.
All you have to do is look at not the rhetoric, but
the actions and action are clear.
IMP: again, I have the actual senate voting record as proof. what do you have besides name calling?"
K: I have a billy joel CD, “The STRANGER” very good CD
although I prefer his “52nd street” CD.
I guess we are even then.
Kropotkin
game over
-Imp
=D>
just as I expected
The rich, if they want to remain rich, or buisness owners wants tax cuts, the advantage is voting the republican.
The poor or adverage middle class ought to vote for democratic.
The democractic are the smart once to solve economic issues, while, republicans solves money and buisness issues.
The republicans have the support of rich buisness men, the democractic has little to none, for that reason less avertisment.
I suspect, the next election, the president would be a democratic, because of crisis rupting all over the place, especially oil. Since buisness owners must save their money, the republicans are goners for the next round of presidency.
This is the first time I ever saw impentient made more than one reply in one thread. At least on mines.