the word is would not be ‘acceptable’
Crowley is no stranger to me, nor is he spiritual (to religious belief) in any sense of the word. He is and was proudly Satanic.
What is Aleister Crowley’s morality?
Modern morality and manners suppress all natural instincts, keep people ignorant of the facts of nature and make them fighting drunk on bogey tales.
But not Jewish.
You are certainly more hung up about Jewishness than I am.
Far more of a Christian than you’ll ever be. And yet not a Christian.
Sorry, thats what in think. I cant see any of the so called Christians here as truly Christian. Ive seen too much of Christ for that.
Sorry, thats what in think. I cant see any of the so called Christians here as truly Christian. Ive seen too much of Christ for that.
Please don’t apologise.
Your path is your own as is mine.
Indeed
and all my righteousnesses are as filthy rags
Democracy and free speech is over.
The US was warned, but nonethless chose the Cheeto, and his Trumpanzees still love him.
Own it!
I am just glad Israel is safe, if we bombed half the world to protect Israel with three billion dead worldwide it would totally be worth it.
If it were still possible to find a simple untranslated, unabridged un-“commented” original language full text online. That seems not possible anymore. At least not in a form that isn’t images which disallow copy and paste of the text in order to verify them through a secondary good translation website.
I have satisfied my intellectual curiosity on this subject and come to understand what I do or, with no claim to perfect truth on the subject I have nonetheless drawn my general conclusions. That was based on a year of serious digging and research. I realize this subject is much too heated and emotional, and in fact far too confusing and complex for easy discussion. I am well aware there are active attempts to falsify information on this subject from all sides. In fact much philosophizing is required, thinking beyond the obvious and between the lines to draw powerful derivations of various likelihoods and attempting to correlate all of these together as reasonably as possible. It is less about picking out specific lines of text than seeing more deeply into underlying ideological and historical factors and being able to understand the real-world manifestation of these even in today’s world.
Does a Google search for “Israel stealing Palestinian land”.
Google response: “An AI Overview is not available for this search”
Try it for yourself.
Even AI is not allowed to speak the truth about Israel 
CHAT GPT.
When people refer to “Israel stealing Palestinian land,” they are often talking about:
Would you like a timeline of key events in the land dispute or a map illustrating the changes?
4o
An original language text would not be useful to us.
Knowing that The Elders of Sion was a Russian creation, yet served for a century to shape peoples ideas on the aims of the Jews, I do not automatically believe what is said about the Talmud without seeing quotes. But I think the cut out quotes I saw about Jesus may be authentic.
Why would the original language full text not be useful? That is precisely what I used in the past when I was examining certain passages to see what they really say. To run it through a simple, neutral translation program.
“Knowing that The Elders of Sion was a Russian creation,” I never read much into this “Elders of Zion” but I know what you refer to. I tried to ignore things that seemed… too easy. I am curious though how you know this is “Russian-created” (fraud)? It could be… Russia has a long complex history with Jewish people. That is partly why so many of the early Bolsheviks were Jewish. History of oppression, pogroms, etc., and of course the Russians having their own complaints.
Your right, I can’t know that for sure.
And you’re of course right about translating possibilities as well. I never went that far with religious texts, you’re more thorough. Also I had no true interest in their basic narratives. And I do think that what would interest me in them, the alleged occult meanings encoded in the Torah that relate to the Tree of Life, wouldn’t come through in translation. Even when I try to get my own poems translated from Dutch what results is largely incoherent and flat.
Do you know of a place to read the full text in original Hebrew and Aramaic? This used to be easy to find. It also needs to have sections numbered properly, so it’s easy to look up specific verses. I’ve already been to the site you linked, it is just long pages of English text and without sections numbered as far as I could see.
Also, as I was saying before, I am not really interested in getting back into this again. But if you can find a simply full text in the original non-translated languages, I would like to at least mark down where it is hosted online. I find it very odd this used to be so easy to find and now I can’t find anywhere. Maybe I’m just not looking hard enough, shrug.
Like for example you can find original language full texts of the Bible super easily. Greek or Hebrew depending on the NT or OT and they are properly numbered sections and verses.
No idea. As I said Ive never been interested in the Talmud.
I learned of it from a Chaim Potok book, in which the study of it was all about numerological correspondences, seemed quite interesting but not my field.
Yes.
i am sure the Talmud is a collection of good and bad things from widely different authors. These phrases which are proudly published are pretty good
And then I can very well imagine there are bad things that are kept hidden.