Is consent violation seen in self-sacrifice which is a teleological suspension of the ethical (of the ethical stage … versus works of love)?
Backdrop:
• You can’t want to not want without wanting.
• Legitimate wants recognize and acknowledge consent.
[Side issue to think alongside: Who is your father? Can people recognize who your father is — biological, legal, or spiritual — from your external behavior displaying your internal image, rather than from your external image? Related: -1, 0, 1 (the fractaliciousness) - #3 by Ichthus77 ]
Not saying it’s not possible but it would take a lot of dot connecting to make that into a coherent proposition. You’re usually like “…that’s somebody else’s job like…”
See that’s your M O—getting someone else to do the work. Meanwhile, you move on. I’ve seen you do that. A guy interpreted what he thought you were saying more coherently than I’ve ever seen you explain it and you just dropped it and moved on to another thread. ADHD?
Why did you come into this thread if you didn’t intend to discuss it?
Same question for MagsJ.
If I phrase things as a question because it is a question I genuinely have (and I stopped myself before getting to the answer just so that we could all share the experience of exploring this together), you say I’m trying to get other people to do the work. If I provide the answer as far as I’ve got it (which, yes, would mean I would have to not stop myself so that we would not be able to explore this together) you say I’ve got all the answers as if I don’t care about finding out what all the possible answers might be.
If you don’t want to partake in the discussion, please don’t reply.
You could say I’m crunched for time, and when I have time, my thoughts happen too fast and I have to write them down. That happens faster (for organizing the kind/way of thoughts they are) with pencil/pen and paper. I have just barely started trying to put them into complete sentences.
The will in alignment with category (of “one”: father, self=other) has to break the spirit … Not getting what you want is not necessarily consent violation.
But the spirit in alignment with the father is going to be a wild freaking ride when the will has conditioned it enough to trust it without controlling it. (& that’s how you get back the aesthetic stage, Kierkegaard)