It’s not about the sex. It’s about the coercion. Control. The amount of control he exercised over these bodies would have to be inversely proportional to how little he felt over his own.
You’re being careless again, Clarice. Remember the three types of control, the purpose they serve, and at what point they emerge in the development of the killer. There is no single, salient feature of control throughout this process other than the objective, physical control that must be taken of the victim in order to sexual assault them.
Possessive control of the victim under the other terms depends on contingencies and circumstances unique to brief periods… while the only form that prevails throughout the entire period is that physical control to simply detain the victim.
During the ‘im angry at my ex’ stage, Ted’s expression of control will involve that sadistic feature you speak of that redeems Ted of his feelings of inadequacy. Oh yeah, bitch? You’re gonna dump me? Aight we can play dat.
So u r right.
But only for a moment. You cannot explain his entire metamorphosis on such a basis. He was not an Ed Kemper with the ladies, dude. The resentment stage and the forms of control that manifested from that and are incorporated into the fantasy, characterize only the early middle period.
Look at all the groupies in the courtroom during the chi omega trial with their hair parted down the middle. Seriously?
Real shit man. Look at everything from the villain’s perspective. Look at what a circus this society is that persecutes you.
That footage when the indictment was read to Bundy as he steps out the elevator. That was an underhanded publicity stunt pulled by a sheriff who was up for reelection. Totally uncalled for and not at all by the book.
Correct. And kill them. That is the only one that exists. All others are covers, because the actual reason this is done is the very thing the ultimate price is paid to avoid.
It is important that it is done against their will. That is the only detail that matters. The rape is because that is the most personal possible sphere to exercise control in. The person has 0 control over their body, you have 100. The killing is because it is the ultimate claim of power over that body. After your acts of coercion, nothing else ever happens.
It goes without saying that if you have to coerce a body, you do not possess it. Under any circumstance.
A powerless man cannot possess.
It’s not about the girls. It’s about him.
If a powerful man wanted to coerce, he would find a powerful body to coerce. That is the only thing that would satisfy his appetite. And that is a very old and well known instinct, the instinct for battle and war, to impose yourself on a powerful enemy.
If you do it on a girl, rape and kill, it is because you do not feel powerful.
You see it in dogs. Beta and Omega males are always humping everything, other dogs, bitches, objects, people, always against their will. Alpha dogs just sit there, and bitches come to them, asking for the dick.
The only thing that gets an Alpha dog active, up and willing to hump against another’s will, is when another potential Alpha shows up.
One of em - can’t remember his name now - once said that he set out only to rape originally, but in being unable to let the girl go for obvious reasons, he had to kill her. He then noticed how much the killing act turned him on… and presto. But he didn’t set out with that intent. It developed along the way.
Keep in mind also that our Teddy wasn’t excessively violent. I mean as far as these guys go. In fact he was one of the quicker, cleaner murderers of the trade. Signature move; blow to the head. Very little blood and no prolonged struggle with the girl that might lead him to doing so weird torturer shit. He would knock them out, engage in intercourse with them (either unconscious or conscious), and often strangle them during or after climax. That was about it. Ted was a conservative before all else, remember, and he kept it traditional and simple. No cigarette burning or stabbing the hoe thirty times like some nuttjob. Ted wanted only to hit it and quit it as easily as possible and he became a fucking scientist at doing so.
Also note: the only two instances of exceptionally vicious attacks were with Sparks and that one chick at chi omega. That’s the first (when he’s dumped) and second to last (when he’s going full retard in Florida). Everybody else was done quickly with no freaky shit going on. He’s one of the least grotesque serial killers, bro. That’s what makes him so sexy. I’d so let him rape me if i wuz a hoe. Like I’d offer myself up to this guy. He’s like a vampire or something. So hot.
Yeah, because it wasn’t about the violence, the sexual act, some erotic sadism. It was about coercion.
The reason that guy discovered that about killing is that he realized that after he had imposed himself, that was the last thing that person ever experienced, draining even further his feeling of powerlessness, which he experienced as sexual arousal.
These are all weak men.
I won’t argue such semantics, but I will give you that they are certainly not evolutionarily stable strategies.
Psh, why not?
The Turks invaded half the planet on the premise.
Here’s Carol DaRonch’s YouTube channel y’all. This is the best vintage stuff ur gonna find for free I believe. And if it weren’t for Ted’s clumsy mistake with the goddamn handcuffs, Carol wouldn’t have a YouTube channel right now, bless her heart. Jesus wuz she a hotty back then dude. How can you expect not to get abducted when you leave the house lookin like that man.
Agent Bundy; political spy
“But it was working for the governor where he really put his dark traits to work, spying on his boss’s Democratic opponent. Bundy wore disguises as he recorded stump speeches for dissection and eventual attack ads. This kind of opposition research is common today, but at the time it was novel. Bundy was interviewed when the press caught wind. The fledgling killer brushed off the attention with false humility…”
“It’s hard for me to believe that what I did is newsworthy,” he told a reporter, chuckling.
“My part in the campaign was so insignificant I’m embarrassed to be getting this publicity from it. Really embarrassed.”
google.com/amp/s/meaww.com/ … ican-party
(fuck now I can’t find the video clip of it)
See here’s one place where me 'n Ted part ways… really the defining feature that sets us most apart. I know I don’t have a sexually sadistic bone in my body when I lay back and listen to this adorable southern-bell’s most sweetest voice. Karen the first girl. How could a man ever want to hurt this beautiful creature. Just listen to how honest and sweet and lovely her voice is.
Now I’m not saying it’s okay to kill the ugly ones. I didn’t say that. And I’m not necessarily saying you absolutely shouldn’t abduct Karen and force her at gun point to read to you, because I understand what it’s like to want that.
I’ve listened to her testimony three times and almost slipped into a sleep each time. she’s such a gentle, soothing thing to listen to.
Hey that’s actually not a bad idea for an MO, especially today when unique serial crimes are becoming fewer and fewer.
I’ll tell you now what I’m gonna do but it won’t be for many many more years. You may or may not remember me saying this.
When I’m either in very bad health and/or am unable to sustain myself any longer, I’m going to do something to get myself into prison.
I will begin an interstate wide series of break-ins and kidnappings in which I will break into the places of very gorgeous women, force them to get fully dressed in winter gear, and read selected stories from a Reader’s Digest to me while I hold them at gun point. After which I will quickly and quietly slip through the back door and out of their lives forever.
This is what the crime industry needs. Something original. All the formulas are played out.
I’m excited.
But let’s look at what actually ended up happening through the late eighties and onward regarding the relation of pornographic material and sexualized violence in the media, with the frequency of known sexual crimes in the US.
When forensic science made DNA analysis and identification possible, that cut the numbers of crimes in half immediately, I would imagine. But to make a real determination here you’d have to run a bunch of numbers and statistics and compare yer per capitas and draw all yer graphs and shit and who’s got time for all that.
It it my theory that once porn - even the more graphic sadomasochistic stuff - became more easily available and accessible through the internet, it actually served as a deterrent to sexual crimes in general because it provided a product and an outlet for vicarious or surrogate sexual experience. In other words, the thing that Ted warned us would be making our creeps, actually ended up taking care of the creeps it made… keeping them off the streets and in their sweaty teenage rooms in front of their computer screens.
The forensic science revolution coupled with the mass commercialization of every kind of porn imaginable, turned a generation of potential sociopaths almost moved to commit sexual violence, into a radically new class and culture of nine inch nails listenin-to, no highschool sports playin, camel lights smokin, VCR video rental store clerk workin, moderately overweight lethargic life-havin, dungeons and dragons playin, star trek convention goin, socially awkward 1995 corolla driving male teenager with light to moderate acne and never anything above a C+ in school.
I mean really if the accessibility of pornography has gone up, and the numbers of known sexual crimes has gone down, then the correlation Ted and Dobson are on about, ended up being a false alarm. But they couldn’t have known this and their cause was noble.
Rather what we, as a society, should be looking at, is how strange it is that humans might make an industry out of sexually graphic media so instead of having to actually have sex to be satisfied, they can look at other humans on electronic screens engage in sexual activity and masturbate while watching.
And this is going on in the hundreds of millions all over the erf.
But no, there wuz never gonna be a nation wide ban on pornography just because a handful of freaks ended up being influenced by it a little too heavily.
But still, how can u, as a society, sleep well at night knowing that millions of decent, misunderstood but well meaning slightly overweight or excessively skinny virgin male adolescent Korn fans (who aren’t tough enough to get into the mosh pits at the live shows and are ridiculed by their peers all the time because of it) are sitting in front of their computers watching blue haired women with dragon dildos doing untold things to themselves at pornhub?
Yes, they aren’t out murdering women, but is this really a viable and healthy alternative? Should we not work as a society to encourage others to improve themselves so they aren’t afraid to go outside into the sun with shorts on instead of black pants, and tennis shoes rather than big 'ol unnecessary impractical over-done and perfectly gratuitous military boots of some kind, and ask the girl down the street on a date?
With the revolution of forensic science and the emasculating forces of consumer culture, our serial killer breed from the seventies and eighties died a slow, myopic death. Men no longer had the balls or the acumen to be a Theodore Bundy, and into their 67 degree basements and studio apartments with wainscoting they go wearing their glasses and bangs… wanting to violate u… to penetrate u, to fuck u like an animaaaal!!!
EW-WAH
EW-EW
AH-EW-WAH-AH
EW-WAH
tss-tss-tss-tss-tss-tss-tss-tss
But let’s look at what actually ended up happening through the late eighties and onward regarding the relation of pornographic material and sexualized violence in the media, with the frequency of known sexual crimes in the US.
When forensic science made DNA analysis and identification possible, that cut the numbers of crimes in half immediately, I would imagine. But to make a real determination here you’d have to run a bunch of numbers and statistics and compare yer per capitas and draw all yer graphs and shit and who’s got time for all that.
It it my theory that once porn - even the more graphic sadomasochistic stuff - became more easily available and accessible through the internet, it actually served as a deterrent to sexual crimes in general because it provided a product and an outlet for vicarious or surrogate sexual experience. In other words, the thing that Ted warned us would be making our creeps, actually ended up taking care of the creeps it made… keeping them off the streets and in their sweaty teenage rooms in front of their computer screens.
The forensic science revolution coupled with the mass commercialization of every kind of porn imaginable, turned a generation of potential sociopaths almost moved to commit sexual violence, into a radically new class and culture of nine inch nails listenin-to, no highschool sports playin, camel lights smokin, VCR video rental store clerk workin, moderately overweight lethargic life-havin, dungeons and dragons playin, star trek convention goin, socially awkward 1995 corolla driving male teenager with light to moderate acne and never anything above a C+ in school.
I mean really if the accessibility of pornography has gone up, and the numbers of known sexual crimes has gone down, then the correlation Ted and Dobson are on about, ended up being a false alarm. But they couldn’t have known this and their cause was noble.
Rather what we, as a society, should be looking at, is how strange it is that humans might make an industry out of sexually graphic media so instead of having to actually have sex to be satisfied, they can look at other humans on electronic screens engage in sexual activity and masturbate while watching.
And this is going on in the hundreds of millions all over the erf.
But no, there wuz never gonna be a nation wide ban on pornography just because a handful of freaks ended up being influenced by it a little too heavily.
But still, how can u, as a society, sleep well at night knowing that millions of decent, misunderstood but well meaning slightly overweight or excessively skinny virgin male adolescent Korn fans (who aren’t tough enough to get into the mosh pits at the live shows and are ridiculed by their peers all the time because of it) are sitting in front of their computers watching blue haired women with dragon dildos doing untold things to themselves at pornhub?
Yes, they aren’t out murdering women, but is this really a viable and healthy alternative? Should we not work as a society to encourage others to improve themselves so they aren’t afraid to go outside into the sun with shorts on instead of black pants, and tennis shoes rather than big 'ol unnecessary impractical over-done and perfectly gratuitous military boots of some kind, and ask the girl down the street on a date?
With the revolution of forensic science and the emasculating forces of consumer culture, our serial killer breed from the seventies and eighties died a slow, myopic death. Men no longer had the balls, opportunity, or the acumen to be a Theodore Bundy, and into their 67 degree basements and studio apartments with wainscoting they go wearing their glasses and bangs… wanting to violate u… to penetrate u, to fuck u like an animaaaal!!!
EW-WAH
EW-EW
AH-EW-WAH-AH
EW-WAH
tss-tss-tss-tss-tss-tss-tss-tss
It wasn’t the porn that reduced the rape. It was the social integration. People that usually would have felt like outsiders with nothing to lose, nothing to owe, were made stakeholders.
Look at Egypt. In Egypt, you don’t matter. The slightest. God and the state matter. You are outside by definition. The result: some gringo journalist girl gets swallowed by a protesting mob, she gets raped and beat right on the spot. No dragging her to an out-of-sight corner, no hiding, just right where they found her.