You either believe God exists or you don’t believe God exists - make up your mind. And pick a good God if you’re gonna believe God exists. The real God. Not some straw God that it’s easy to wrestle.
Yeah, I have read the Bible … the patriarchs are ‘satanists’. What kind of moron thinks power is more important than love (Abraham). What kind of soulless person builds an arch knowing everyone else will die except him (Noah)
What kind of person is so afraid of power that he finally concedes to god after renouncing god (job)
What kind of person teaches that we are mere robots of gods spirit in us (Jesus)
The ‘devil‘ is their god.
I see no freethinkers in the Bible.
This is how insecure god is… thall shall have no other gods before me.
I think that’s the first commandment if I remember correctly.
Need we continue?
Obedience or hell. If I had as much power as ‘satan’, and I wanted complete obedience… I’d write the Bible. And then I’d terrorize people into submission.
I’d use every trick I could think of at my disposal to reverse the images.
I’d make my greatest slave, Jesus, god on earth.
You know what hat the Bible is?
Propaganda from a bygone era of kings who didn’t want their authority questioned during the Stone Age.
That’s all it is.
Love me with all your heart and soul? Why?
Give me a reason.
You’re freaking hilarious, but I’m glad you’re not God.
If you’re not joking I am laughing way too much, but I can’t bring myself to apologize.
I’ll try to give a serious reply later.
I’ll prolly fail.
Nobody is god. That’s the part you haven’t figured out… we made this plan unanimously and if we change it, we change it unanimously.
You’re giving not only your power away, but everyone else’s power away.
You still think like the Stone Age … there needs to be the unquestioned benevolent dictator.
I always tell people that the way they respond to god is what they’d do if they were god.
You’ve made it very apparent what kind of god you’d be.
I mean, the propaganda is so bad that the greatest sin is calling the works of god evil.
These were really insecure psychopaths who didn’t want to be questioned and wanted complete authority.
There’s two things you’re missing in the Bible …
You don’t understand how psychopaths work and you don’t understand how propaganda works.
Let’s look at what real love is for an instant.
Getting everything you want at nobodies expense.
God could marionette an infinite number of philosophic zombie universes tailored to each person.
Assuming god is good and assuming god enjoys being good and assuming god is what people say god is.
God doesn’t even have to sacrifice to do this.
Once it became very apparent to me that god either doesn’t exist or is evil …
I started working on a new plan to submit that is individual that meets the same criteria …
Hyperdimensional mirror realities, using mirror particles to overcome the earlier difficulties with this problem.
He is as convincing as you.
Look in the mirror!
Why don’t you hold the mirror in front of my face & describe what you see? G’head. Chisel away.
Ecmandu, I’m going to have to postpone our conversation. I was super inconvenienced by discrimination today and it took up a lot of my time. Time better spent telling you about how I can’t believe you made me jaywalk with my mom. I’ll never forgive myself. Also, a hippie dude let me touch his chrystals today. Pretty sure that was you violating my consent when I asked him if I could touch his crystals. We’re both doomed. I just need a little time out.
Actually I’m just realizing that I procrastinated the whole weekend away and I have a lot of reading to do.
Still your fault.
You’re not too good at being sarcastic.
Small consent violations leave a small crack open for the biggest ones… forever.
Apparently you think all this is a joke.
It’s no joke.
And btw smart ass.
People who jaywalk get hit 20% less than people who cross on signals.
Let me put this whole thing to you very simply.
I am possessed by some of the oldest and most powerful beings in existence. For some fucking reason they chose me.
Here’s the deal man. If you can’t debate. Shut the fuck up. At this point you’re trolling. You’re not discussing earnestly.
Some of the spirits in me are not as forgiving as I am.
My best advice to you if you want to learn, and you can’t debate… is to shut the fuck up.
You need a hug & noogie is what you need.
& to tell your negative thoughts to eff off. Cuz youknow I think you’re the bees knees.
I don’t care. I have a job to do. I do more work taking a single puff off a cigarette than most do their entire lives. I work so hard to defend your souls.
I know what hell is. I don’t want you to go there.
People really make it hard on me.
I’m not claiming to be part of all of your dumbass narratives.
What? God? Buddha? Jesus?
Fuck that shit.
I have to figure out how to help them too.
I have the wrath of existence in me.
And I spend every moment trying to hold it back.
You had one job, Ecmandu. One. Maybe three. But seriously - one job. And you suck at it. I’m beginning to doubt you even exist. Fix that.
I’m making a new plan. Next time I go shopping - I’m not putting the shopping cart back where it goes. You better come up with a better plan than Jesus’ sacrifice to deal with that one.
You’re being sarcastic again. You’re not good at it.
The type of god you speak of needs no sacrifice.
So then… you actually have to think for a change.
How do we make this better? Not as a king, but as all of us.
You have broken your own rule Ecmandu. I asked you to kindly stop using my thread for your agenda, and you ignored my plea. CONSENT VIOLATION!!!
touché
How to freely will together… See my reply to Bob. I’m the first reply.
PG,
My agenda?
You’re the one who refuses to answer straight tough posts of mine that are on topic.
I wrote really cogent replies to you, and instead of replying like an adult, you huff and puff and say “but you don’t understand the discovery!”
Meanwhile… since you’re not on topic for your own thread… we’re exploring the concept of god determinism.