The Case of Heidegger

Yeah, it’s real common. It’s so common this….

is considered an argument in favor of it being unweird: Stalin’s form of communism. Common and normal that right wing communism.

Such as? What’s the socialist country you admire or admired?

I’m not a liberal. Man, you people with your two boxes.

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Like this?

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If you want to be an extremist at least do it properly. Like the acceptance, tolerance, love and inclusion crowd.

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So, this way?

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@greenfuse

On the one hand you say you’re not liberal where you don’t associate with any political categorizations, on the other hand you condemn just about anything that isn’t liberal as being outlandish.

I feel like you’re chastising me for being communist, Marxist, and a conservative.

This is why I cannot stand the neutral moderate crowds with their smug arrogance of pretend superiority because they’re simply beyond everything. Super frustrating and annoying.

The easiest thing to do in the world is to say you’re beyond everything and beyond reproach.

Also, protip, I am anti democratic as well.

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I don’t think I ever condemned anything for being outlandish. I did call Nazi right wing socialism weird, which is not a word I use to condemn, and I condemn Nazi Germany for other qualities. In fact, I am weird. What, are you normal? Rhetorical question.

I disagree with you on some things. I can’t help it if you feel chastized. I don’t really care what people label themselves as. People seem overly fascinated with this self- and other labeling. I guess it makes thinking about other people and what they say simpler and it functions like a shortcut.

I told you some of my beliefs in an earlier post. I am hardly neutral or moderate. That’s the problem with most self-labellers, they just have to get other people into boxes, so they can relax and give their canned group X is bad because. Shit, I don’t want the beliefs that get called moderate, but it would be lovely if I felt like most positions I have fit neatly in the middle of the spectrum. I could have political and other conversations without them thinking I am so outlandish they don’t even understand what I am saying. And if my positions were in the middle, iow more people had them, and other main positions were closer, the world would be a better place. You self-labellers are like people who identify themselves by their star signs. If we actually dug into your labels we’d find you don’t really fit any of them. Which is not an insult.

Yeah, I haven’t said that. Who is it that you are projecting on to me?

Then you are deviating from Marx.

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@greenfuse

Weird relative to what though?

Normal? That’s a very conflated word, isn’t it?

A mental shortcut? Cutting through the mental chase of things, yes.

Otherwise its just endless dialogue back and fourth which is great if you have an endless amount of time to do such mental theatrics but otherwise frustrating for most people where time is limited.

Human beings are tribal affiliated to rank and file, so yeah, categorizations is a thing most people follow to describe each other.

Star signs? I am not here to read your zodiac if that’s what you’re worried about.

You come across like that sometimes, but of course written text as a form of communication on the internet can be very limited compared to other forms of communication. Your inclination towards neutrality makes internet conversation and banter harder.

It’s true Marx was democratic, so why were a lot of his followers anti democratic? The next question arises. I would say because his followers found out very quickly I would argue how hostile foreign forces could easily hijack democracy politically through organized subversion where they had to alter government structure very radically to preserve economic Marxism overtime. This is why communist nations seperate themselves from democracy historically.

I would then go on to say that democracy itself isn’t even real as my direct criticism of it.

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Uncommon, a rare combination of traits would be one example

Common, average, part of the majority, the usual way of doing things. If you are now going to react that I mean this is positive, you’re confused.

You seem to have a great deal of time to post here, first off. And yes, inaccuracy saves time. You’ve said yourself that if you went to most communist organizations they would disagree with many perhaps most things you believe. You could at least say that you take ideas from communism, Marxism and right wing ideas, but have come up with your own unique mix. When you write what you generally write you are misleading people and I suspect you enjoy the provocation of it - that’s not negative, but it’s something other than giving information. And most of your really rather huge number of posts DON’T strike me as parts of dialogue. Perhaps you’re not here so much for dialogue. Which is fine. But I see no reason to do what most people do, which, by the way, seems like an odd criticism coming from you.

So, I should act more like most people. Sorry you find me outlandish or weird. This must be hard for you.

What issue am I neutral about?

Or, why are they not really Marxist?

Well, what gets called democracy in the US, is the right to choose between two controlled candidates. Like choosing Coke over Pepsi is freedom. So, for example, I don’t think the US is democratic at all. That’s my middle of the road, centrist, neutral opinion. Jeez. You find me the party where my views would be considered neutral and centrist.

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Гениальный ответ.

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Your post seems to be diverging into tribalism. That wasn’t the point of my post, but if you insist then yes I am an imperialist, I have been told that the blue alien hermaphrodites exist and have a superior society to this world. I wish for imperial galactic conquest on behalf of the blue alien hermaphrodites unless someone can prove a strong logical argument why not?

Anyway, I view tribalism and imperialism as 2 different things.

Tribalism is healthy, imperialism is desperation. Yes my imperialism is a form of desperation, I view this world as forlorn garbage in need of saving by blue alien hermphrodite imperials.

Tribalism is like, a group of Native Americans in the woods, being tribal, united as a tribe, and it feels healthy and based.

Imperialism is more of an abstraction, for instance I’ve never met any of these blue aliens personally and don’t know much about them, I don’t even know if they exist. Its very much a feeling of desperation and a hail mary, hoping they can arrive to this world.

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Now, as for my earlier post, what I was mentioning was not tribalism or imperialism, but I was mentioning why Cis societies funnel into nazism after a while. It is because of unfair sexual dimorphism, and sexual stratification. Males have to overperform and heavily regulate their emotions and act stoic. The sexual dimorphism becomes dehumanizing, males become more machine-like, like the Terminator or something.

The Nazi’s were an extreme version of German Culture which was extremely hierarchical and extremely control-oriented. They were a weird kind of socialist, a right wing socialism. They wanted to end class distinctions and have a community based on Aryan blood - they are still the master race even without the presence of Jews. The culture had to be utterly unified, so all schools, religions and cultural aspect would become nazified, which would end the participation of most religions in the longer term. No disparaties of important opinions and values. The individual is duty bound and subservient to the Volk/state. A strong leader, basically an Emperor - Hitler at first. Not much showing of emotions. Control of emotions would be the rule, certainly for men, but even women and children. Rules for everything. About as anal as you can get.

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