Confucius while greatly respected in eastern philosophy is still a relatively unknown in western civilization and society.
What is great about Confucius is that he would say there is no divine reward or payment for being good and ethical, instead he would say that being good towards others is its own earthly reward. He would also say that even if your moral or ethical system might fail the attempt at creating an environment of goodness within civilization or society is always worth it even if it ends in failure. The eternal struggle for morality and ethics within the human condition is always worth it every single time.
As far as humility is concerned Confucius’s moral or ethical philosophy is the closest thing to humility you can get for a morality philosophical thinker.
I lean a lot more towards Laozi personally, but no matter which direction you go, whether its Buddhism, Confucianism or Taoism, all 3 of these philosophical standpoints are light years ahead of the western values and ideas
Regardless of which is closest to you, there is an immense amount of understanding that can be gathered from them, cause their focus is not only on human beings, but also on the way the world around us works.
An extremely stark difference compared to western pragmatism.
What is great about “confucius” spreading this falsehood?
The only ones who ‘struggle’ here are the ones with cognitive dissonance because they still do not yet know what the words ‘morality’ and ‘ethics’ are referring to exactly and do not yet know what is actually True and Right, in Life. Fie the rest of ‘us’ there is certainly no so-called ‘eternal struggle’.
Any such claim or belief there is is just another Falsehood.
Some masterful forum trolling utilizing extreme skepticism for every subject or post that is presented to you. Your trolling however is very obvious also.
Are you even aware that ‘trolling’ means something else to others?
Look, if you cannot back up and stand behind your claims, or even if you do not even want to try to, then this is perfectly understandable, especially considering some of the claims that you ‘try to’ make here.
But not focusing on your claims and what is said and written in response is not helping you here. ‘Trying to’ deflect is only shining light on your insecurities and shortcomings here.
Once more, I will suggest that if anyone wants to come into, especially, a publicly open philosophy forum and make claims, then they first obtain the very proof that backs up and supports their claims irrefutably so, before they make their claim public
It is indistinguishable from trolling in the practice, but the motivation for it is something else entirely… dude has problems. Needs an outlet for them. Desperately.
Look, if people, like you, want to believe, absolutely, that ‘evil and wicked people’ actually do exist, then so be it. But, it is people ‘like you’ who have the actual issues, in Life, and who are the actual cause of why ‘the world’ is in the absolute mess and unhealthy state that it is in, when this is being written.
In fact, it could be argued that those who judgemental ‘like you’ are the very reason why evil and wickedness came to exist in the beginning.
But, because people do not want to have Truly open and honest discussions, what the actual Truth here will remain hidden ‘from them’.
Courage.
What an interesting word.
How interesting is it that you can tell an entire story about how one views themselves and others, just from one random word?
You think other people need courage to meet your opinions.
You think that they fear to meet your intellectual superiority.
You think that people avoid addressing you because you are just that superior in repeating “why” till their points eventually hit the wall.
Nobody owes any specificity, not even attention to someone who fulfills only 2 purposes on this forum:
Try to use as much demagogy as possible and wreck as many views with inane stupidity as possible.
To make himself feel good and superior in doing so.
I dont need courage to face anything you say anew.
Do you know what i need?
A reason.
And i have none.
What reason is there in talking to someone who has no point, stands for nothing, has nothing to say, and finds his only reason in destruction, gaslighting and demagogy?
I have tried talking to you on several occasions.
I know and understand what you are doing my dude.
The only one needing courage here is you.
Courage to face why you are doing what you are doing.
If you could gather enough courage for that, we could have an interesting conversation about it. Sadly, i dont see that happening.
@Nausamedu - anew cannot even see the problem with the above sentence and his whole post to you. It’s actually rather remarkable. But note the careful wording: ‘it could be argued’. He leaves these outs, so he can judge and insult but never have to defend his insults. Just as he makes claims, including the claims that he can prove his claims, but when asked he cannot prove his claims. It could be argued that those judgmental like anew are the very reason there is so much evil and wickedness in the world, since they aren’t even aware of what they are doing.
On topic: does such behavior mean he is wicked? Not necessarily. But his approach another way the signal to noise ratio gets worse in the forum.
Lao Tzu said: Those who know do not speak; those who speak do not know.
So, I doubt he’d view the forum as valuable except for lurkers.
I dont think he is wicked per say. At least i would not be able to tell from just this much.
He has a need for acting in this manner, and need requires reason.
What that reason is, only he knows.
Would make an interesting discourse if he had the courage to be up front about his reasons, but as things stand all he is doing is just a form of escapism and compensation.
Nothing particularly wrong with it once you understood what he is doing, but as i said… once you understood, you have no reason to engage cause nothing productive will come out of it.
I cant converse with someone who has only one single goal for conversing and that is to verbally curb stomp me in order to prove to himself that he holds a superior position to mine.
In the process of doing so he sometimes makes quite interesting arguments too.
He aint stupid. Just desperate.
But yeah, due to his disposition you will never be able to have a constructive conversation with him.
If you want to make this claim and believe it is true, then okay.
What this one has done here is provide another prime example of misunderstanding my words completely. This one believes it knows what I was talking about, but what I was referring to was something else entirely. Again, the point I was making was completely and utterly lost.
What this one believes and claims here could not be further from the actual Truth of things.
So, I could claim, ‘you have problems’, for example, and when asked to list ‘those problems’, you now claim that I do not owe any specificity at all.
And, this is exactly why ‘the world’ is in the complete and utter mess that it is is ‘now’, when this is being written.
LOL These people actually believed that anyone could make any accusation or claim about anything or anyone, and no specificity is owed.
Talk about another example of "trumpism’ creeping into the “mindset” of the “common people”.
Again, more claims that could not be any further from the actual Truth of things.
LOL Most people here just “run away” when I ask them to back up, support, or clarify their claims. they do not go to so much deflection and pretend excuses as you are ‘trying’ here.
Look, ‘you’ made ‘the claim’ that ‘I have problems’, plural.
If you are too scared to list them, then so be it.
Here is ‘another claim’. So, what am I, ‘your dude’, supposedly doing, exactly?
Saying and claiming that you know and understand what another is doing, without elaborating or clarifying what the is doing, is literally being meaningless. you are not saying anything at all really.
Especially it would obviously be a one way conversation.
If you would only have enough courage for ‘that’, the we could also have an interesting conversation about ‘it’ as well. But obviously you would not do ‘this’.
