The Order of Obsessive Compulsive Images

Infant Psyche: 0 – 3 years. Obsessed with mother image.

Childish Psyche; 3 – 11 years. Obsessed with material images,

Pubertal Psyche 11 – 13 years. Obsessed with the hero image.

Teenage Psyche 13 – 21 years. Obsessed with self image.

Adult Psyche 21 – 42 years. Obsessed with craftsman image

Menopause Psyche 42 – 63 years. Obsessed with parental image

Sage Psyche 63 – 84 years. Obsessed with sagacious image

The sequence of these psychological obsessions promote the ordered growth of self awareness but, in unnatural environments, because they arise compulsively from the sub-conscious, the sequence can be broken and the obsessions can become disordered.

What is interesting from an individual level, if we take just the child sequence, is that it is mostly men, obsessed with their toys, collections, money etc, that suffer from this disorder. They never get past childhood. Women too. Emelda Marcos with her shoes comes to mind.

Most interesting though is when the entire sequence is projected into the collective evolution of the spcies.

I think this is where I am at - I’ve definitely moved from self-image/where one stares at one’s reflection in every refective surface one passes. #-o
I’m beginning to border on Parental: where I find myself chastising anyone of teenege years or under - of course I do still love to glance in the mirror whenever I pass one. :wink:

I think every human has to work on themselves: to progress through the natural process of personal evolution, or, like you said: they stagnate in a certain psyche…

I would say that, despite having eight kids whom I adore, I am in the same place as you. Every now and then I have a moment of insight into the profound nature of parenthood and how deeply I am influencing the lives of my children, and then I lose it, thinking of their future and what needs to be done to secure it. So I lose the immediate nectar of that taste and refocus my vision ln trying to hone my craft as a futurist.

…a futurist?

I am surprised that you of all people on this forum are surprised. I thought you realized that my study and comments of the past has always been in order to show how it points to the future.
The future has to be predicated on what happened in the past. If this were not so, God would be playing dice with the Universe. The craft of the futurist is to read the bones of the past exactly as they fell - on that one can only rely on one’s own interpretation.
Psyche-Genetics goes back to the first self-reflective thought that turned hominid consciousness into human consciousness - and why the rise of a phantom ego - which separated us from Nature, had to happen. From there it logically traces the evolutionary progressions that have brought us to the present. It then goes on to predict exactly how, why and when the cycle of human evolution will finally come to an end. Futurism is a suble alchemy of physics and metaphsyics. The stumbling block is always one’s own ego. You tend to see only what you want to see.

Most seers intuit only a moment of the future. I want to see the whole picture. The random element - that we might kill ourselves before full maturity - is part of our future.

I wasn’t sure in what context ‘futurist’ was meant, that was all - I remember that one of our first conversations was about those that know better being a sort of guide to humanity, and the smarter do feel an obligation to the task: as it would be self-deprecating not to do so/to let something happen that only a minority have a responsibility to achieve…

…and because history is open to interpretation by all and sundry: why rely on history as a guide if it is up for over-analysis - what about the here/now as an anchor for which the future can be propelled from/mapped out? for current times over-ride historical fables every time, and we cannot deny what we see.

Ahh it is a shame that you have not read most of my posts. I have reiterated over and over again that 99.9% of human history took place during the Stone and Bronze Ages. Those two eras were based on logical environmenmtal and occupational imperatives and are not open to interpretation. They form the base of our common sense. Every culture on the planet experienced identical family and extended family values. It is only the remaining .1% of our evolution that has been distorted by script indoctrination and its endless interpretations.

Preliterate history is only a fable to those who have not taken the trouble to go out into the undeveloped areas of the world where hunter/gatherer and agricultural societies continue to exist and observe their behavior first hand.

What we see today is the distortions that come from superficial script indoctrination. Trying to predict the future from the here and now is therefore silly. If our preliterate history is properly understood, the degree of modern distortions is reasonably easy to analyze. Rehabilitation however is harder. The current self-determined modern psyche is currently in a rebellious stage of pseudo-intellectual independence - even if one points out that everything in the universe is inter-dependent. The modern ego protests vigorously against any idea of pre-destination. The first hurdle for the healer is the problem of denial. We are addicted to our life of pseudo-sophistication, even if it contradicts common sense and causes harm to others and the enivironment. Every one of my posts reflects this hot denial of basic truths.

The modern reality is that every single educated person on the planet has been systematically indoctrinated from childhood onwards with artificial script-based knowledge. Fom increasingly younger ages we are incarcerated inside crowded classrooms and brain-washed for six hours a day for twelve years an more. By any criteria that is a massive invasion of the natural state of the mind. Worse still, all of that has been focused on developing the anlyical side of the brain. The intuitive side has been left to atrophy. Ten generations of that compulsory education system has generated increasingly serious psychological problems which is manifest in the massive investements required to administer and police our social behavior. Thankfully script-based dysfuntion is not embedded deep enough in the human pyche that it cannot be corrected. I have done that with my children, via a dual-brain program of development that I began from their births onwards. The results have revealed the original healthy adult genius.

I do recall reading this on one of your threads - so the game-playing began when man became aware?

…that doesn’t change the fact that history is interpreted how others see fit to do so, for their own beneficial gain - I’d rather not quote history to substantiate any claims I make, but base them on current times and personal experience.

Living a life that causes no harm to any thing: apart from (perhaps) oneself: is a start on the right track of realisation.

Education is geared towards making obedient workers/money for the state: that’s all they care about - career burn-out is testament to that!

[quote=“Magsj”]
[ so the game-playing began when man became aware?

When man first became self-aware - Nature became self aware.
We are the end result of 3 billion years of evolutionary progressions. There is no other consciousness as alert as ours. Perhaps not in the entire Universe.
We represent the whole point and meaning and purpose of creation. We are God experiencing Him/Herself from an analytical point of view as well and an instinctive one. It is that history we must work from and project our future.

Yeah – the game really got started with the first glimmer of a reflective ego

…or perhaps there is consciousness in the universe that matches or exceeds ours…? to think otherwise: is to otherwise be so arrogant, for presuming such a thing!

We represent part of the point of everything: we are not some end game of it.

…and the ego has been man’s undoing ever since. :confused: it helps and hinders at the same time: yet it is what aids in the process of one’s selectivity and decision making.

Arrogance? Presumptive. Hardly. For me familiarity has never bred contempt.

Firstly: The more I know and contemplate on the vast span of organic evolution taking place on our planet over the past 3 billion years and try to wrap my little mind around the epic sweep of the dramas all the billions of species have experienced as they survived one mass extinction after another, I do not think it either arragant or presumptive to think that nothing as fantastic as this ever happened elsewhere in the universe.

Secondly: If we add to that the eventual emergence of a self-reflective consciousness evolving on this tiny jewel in the vasteness of space - out of the original primeval hydrogen core that exploded ten billion years prior to the first cell, and see that as a Divine plan for a Cosmic Godhead to find a way to view Himself via an analytical consciousness, why duplicate that enormous effort at self-realization elsewhere.? What other view of the self is there than the one we all see in any mirror?

Thirdly: If a reflective analytical consciousness has evolved elsewhere, it can only be the variation of a theme. It is the same Cosmic God, dreaming dreams.

A whole universe, and we alone are the most intelligent and sentient beings in it? - the advancements since the industrial revolution have been thick and fast, but not much in the way of real civility and planetary progress to match it…

As fantastic as the planet is: I sometimes feel that many do not deserve to be on it!

Progress is still in play, but is being overlooked in favour of the maintenance of the recent past - forever playing planetary catch-up does not warrant arrogance in my view.
Sure, such a reoccurance has a very slim chance of being duplicated elsewhere in the universe, but life could evolve under a different set of rules elsewhere: due to differing physiological planetary factors.

Not believing in a ‘divine plan’: I see things how they are now, as a natural phenomena brought about by the right circumstance - although, we are amazing. :smiley: or are we just some random alien kid’s Science project :evilfun:

I’ll read god for natural laws/natural order of things :wink: for there is no such thing as god…

Sentient beings could well have been brought about by the random mutations of single-cell organisms that was brought about by the need for better survival once the planet started progressing - the organism adapting to the environment: as Science proves does happen. Progression will occur, regardless, but perhaps in another mutation :-k

Each of us spent our entire childhood being indoctrinated in classrooms with technical learning. Consequency we are trained to believe that the most intelligent cultures in the Universe must be the the most technologically advanced.

The real magic in the Universe is not comprised of matter, but spiritual energy. The whole point of an advanced spirit is to be self-realized. Ie. know the depth of one’s Cosmic Self. Developing technology is simply a tiny mind game temporially taking place in the broad scheme of things. It can never transport us beyond the edge of our solar sphere. The process of self-discovery of the spirit via organic evolution has been taking place on our planet for 3 billion years. When we finally all arrive there collectively (unless we commit species extinction before then) that journey will have made us the most advanced Consciousness in the universe. QED

There may be similar processes taking place on other galaxies - but the end game has to be the same. The reason? It is all about the same Cosmic atomic radiations. A hydrogen atom is a hydrogen atom is a hydrogen atom - ad infinitum.

Not everybody thinks so, and I certainly don’t - there are elite/intelligent in all the ethnic strands of the human race: which is what I spent most of another thread saying! :unamused:
Not every family line will/can make it through to the end: a thing which was accepted in the past, but a thing which people find a horrific idea now - why is that?

I think that’s debatable :-s but it’s a nice thought anyways! :smiley:

Sounds logical. :-k

I guess any small variance in environmental conditions would yield different results to Earth’s: which is probably an obvious thing to say - who’s to say the same environmental laws/molecular recombinations apply across the ‘universal’ board? ya never know…

This is certainly true from a physiological perspective.
But I maintain that there is only one form of Universal Atomic Consciousness.
And that every self-aware specie anywhere in the universe must come tothe same conscious conclusion.
Just as we are all part of the brother/sisterhood on this planet - so too are we all part of the Cosmic brother/sisterhood
If this were not so, no alien from any other system could communicate with us.

I see what you mean - a holistic approach to existence: as in, we all stem from the same building blocks! I think meditation brings one closer to that original place/time: where you feel at one with the universe/energies, but don’t know if this is possible, and so you wonder if it’s just one’s mind playing tricks. :-s

If we believe in a Universal Godhead, any other form of advanced consciousness from every galaxy must be on the same atomic wave-length. Anything else would be a mind trick.

…the natural progression of things seems to set actions in motion: a catalyst for every action and reaction/every element that exists - does it mean we are universally on the same atomic wave-length and known frequency: who’s to say! :-k

I am not under any illusions as to the possiiblty of us not understanding parts of the unknown universe that do not conform to our known natural laws, as nothing is ever uniform: just look at our planet! :wink:

I’m so up for meeting an alien specie, but not to be experimented on: as that’d be just plain sad :frowning:

Any intelligence advanced enough to exceed the speed of light and visit other star systems has to be benign. Destructive thinking would never allow it to achieve such high level of creativity. All the SF books and movies are way off base. But then, compassionate aliens don’t make for much drama. The Truth would loose big time at the box office… =;