The weird prohibition against paying for sex

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So you interpret the creation narrative literally? OK. Why was Eve able to finagle Adam into eating the “apple“ (actually, unspecified fruit)? Because she was weak? Was Adam particularly stronger in that moment? Why did he disclaim responsibility for his action?

Too bad they didn’t stick to the plentiful fruit available to them all throughout the garden. They just had to see what saying NO was like.

God is a God who leaves yes on the table even after hearing no.

But it won’t ever be Eden again.

Just sayin.

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My friend, l think you are creating a God based on your own desires. Let me put what l meant another way: I would not marry a woman that starts a sexual rebellion in my home, denying sex (outside of menstruation, and the “wrong way”), then prompts a divorce, then a financial settlement, then takes my kids away. I’ve seen this happen. Not for me.

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You can’t tell the future, dude. Even if she promises not to do any of that, she can turn around and do all of it.

Not that I ever did.

Besides that, you’re a Muslim. Our religious disagreements are humongous. We would be unevenly yoked. So not to worry.

I probably should never get married again, according to what God has said. Even though I really miss certain things about it. Just stating facts.

I am never going to talk about the things you want me to talk about. You’re going to have to ask me very directly, and you’re going to have to have some sort of relationship with me that isn’t in public. And seeing as you’re a Muslim (or so you say), I don’t think that is very likely.

Don’t offer/accept money for sex. drops mic

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I agree with you mostly and l admire your politeness.
But l hope you see that wihholding sex in a marriage is misuse of sexual capita, and as such, is turning sex into capital.

Which is just like prostitution.
Picks mic off the floor and cleans it with antibac wipe and hands it back to you

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Goes both ways.

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You don’t get to rape your wife just because you are Muslim.

Oh, wait…

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Does your .jpegs and .movs have rights? Do you ever wonder why they are created for free?

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I did warn about dysfunctional households creating weird children born out of wedlock (the b-word). Sure you will call yourself a humanist. They often do.

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Stuff is flying over my head here. Probably for the best.

Next.

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I hate to break it to people of religious faith.

It’s the preschool of understanding life.

And children are innocent. Which is beautiful.

Eventually you have to grow up, and if you can grow up with a child’s mind, you’re still beautiful

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Is English not your first language? You’re not making any sense dude.

I said or rather implied that in Islam, a husband has the total right to rape his wife. She cannot say no. Of course you would ignore that because you don’t want to admit I am correct.

But keep adding weird nonsensical things instead of responding to clear points. Just like every other Muslim I have ever encountered. Irrationality 110%, self-awareness 0%.

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You whine too much about rape. I did not touch you. Rape is your definition and a recent update in legislation in some countries. English is my first language.

You are anachronistically applying rape to Muslims over and over, this is a falsehood and as such defaults to yourself.

In Atheism, as well as in secular law - which we all abide by - your wife could go with any man she pleases and if you try to stop her you’d end up with 5 cops stepping on your neck.

That is a big reason why marriages tend not to happen now in the more developed nations, and 50% of Gen Z feel the same, that’s just the ones responding to surveys and admitting they feel the same - that the pendulum has swung too far.

As for Atheism, the age of consent in Atheism is nonexistent, so it could be anything from negative 9 months to 120 years plus.

Snorting poop, eating poop, and so forth: all permissible in Atheism. I’m not insulting, l’m just stating facts.

Dark-web is tolerated within secularism but the thing that occur there are 100% permitted by Atheism (which is not the same as secularism). That is to say, reape, murder, torture - all are permitted by Atheism.

My thesis was that you have been on the dark web and your mind has been poisoned by the sexual crimes viewed there. This shows in your subsequent projection of these crimes onto Muslims. It is a common thread among the demon-possessed to attack Islam fervently, on and on. I have seen your type before online, they are steeped in the dark side of the internet, they will even speak openly of sexual abuse, whilst vehemently decrying Islam. I think another reason they do it is to shield themselves from scrutiny, declare themselves one of the fold, one of the enemies of Islam hence their sketchy behaviours are somehow excusable?

l affirm that you have viewed sexual abuse online and that is why you are overwhelmed with an evil spirit and hellbent on attacking Muslims, accusing them of the same sexual crimes, at every opportunity you have to interact with me here. Maybe you look to me as an exorcist or something. But l cannot do an excorcism, on or offline, nor would l like to. If l am wrong about you, when l say you have viewed sexual abuse multiple times and you love seeing it, may God curse me with a fiery death. You are welcome to humour me by taking the same oath but l know you never will. Humour me by saying “I swear l have never viewed sexual abuse, let alone repeatedly, causing me to hound Muslims and project it onto them online, and if l am lying may l burn to death.” Then having made parallel oaths we may defer the matter to God, whom you don’t even believe in so it’s okay.

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Islam is a very clear example of rape culture. Your “prophet” did it over and over. Muslims continue the practice. There is no reason to deny it. We all know the truth here.

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Mohammed was a shitty teacher.

But for his time, he was a revolutionary.

He married over 600 women to raise their status and pull them out of slavery.

He was still a shitty embodiment of teaching considering life reveiws

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I mean, taking sex slaves and raping them, women and child girls, was done to “raise their status” as a very legitimate concern for their well-being. Is pretty laughable.

Then again the same “prophet” kidnapped and forced a 6-year old girl to marry him, then he raped her when she was 9-years old. And this is according to their own religious texts.

So, I mean… the fact Islamic cultures today are clear examples of systemic rape culture, with no rights for women, and including when many of them move into western societies and the rape rate goes through the roof… is not actually very surprising.

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Actually worshipping a legit pedophile… I mean, wow.

Don’t remember Jesus raping any children in the New Testament.

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I concede to you AI.

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I’m def team HumAnize rn. not in regards to the original post, mind you—although, I haven’t read it.

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