Thread for mundane ironists

Faith

“I have one desire now - to live a life of reckless abandon for the Lord, putting all my energy and strength into it.” Elisabeth Elliot

Pick Three:
1] jihad
2] crusade
3] fatwa

“Sometimes I think it is my mission to bring faith to the faithless, and doubt to the faithful.” Paul Tillich

Now you’re talking.

“He who thinks half-heartedly will not believe in God; but he who really thinks has to believe in God.” Isaac Newton

One of them, for example.

"God never talks. But the devil keeps advertising, Father. The devil does a lot of commercials.” William Peter Blatty

Let’s exorcise them all.

“Reason is in fact the path to faith, and faith takes over when reason can say no more.” Thomas Merton

If you get his drift. And I certainly do.

“That which can be destroyed by the truth should be.” P.C. Hodgell

Like there won’t be a million more to follow.

Self

“The greatest hazard of all, losing one’s self, can occur very quietly in the world, as if it were nothing at all. No other loss can occur so quietly; any other loss - an arm, a leg, five dollars, a wife, etc. - is sure to be noticed.” Søren Kierkegaard

Tongue in cheek, let’s say.

“It is not for me to judge another man’s life. I must judge, I must choose, I must spurn, purely for myself. For myself, alone.” Herman Hesse

Want to hear my own rendition of that? Yet again, for example.

“You are who you are when nobody’s watching.” Stephen Fry

Fractured and fragmented, for instance.

“Through our eyes, the universe is perceiving itself. Through our ears, the universe is listening to its harmonies. We are the witnesses through which the universe becomes conscious of its glory, of its magnificence.” Alan Watts

Whatever for all practical purposes that means.

“To sell your soul is the easiest thing in the world. That’s what everybody does every hour of his life. If I asked you to keep your soul - would you understand why that’s much harder?” Ayn Rand

Or else…what?

“The most loving parents and relatives commit murder with smiles on their faces. They force us to destroy the person we really are: a subtle kind of murder.” Jim Morrison

And that’s still not against the law.

Suicide

“It’s better to have a gay life of it than to commit suicide.” Vincent van Gogh

Back then, of course.

“Suicide seemed to me the greatest kind of freedom, a release from everything, from a life that had been ruined a long time ago.” Natascha Kampusch

Thank God?

“Looking at suicide—the sheer numbers, the pain leading up to it, and the suffering left behind—is harrowing. For every moment of exuberance in science, or in the success of governments, there is a matching and terrible reality of the deaths themselves: the young deaths, the violent deaths, the unnecessary deaths.” Kay Redfield Jamison

Yadda yadda yadda.

"Sons of suicides seldom do well.” Kurt Vonnegut

Next up: their son’s son.

“Knowing that you want to die makes you less scared.” Nick Hornby

More and/or less, let’s say.

“I’m sure we all have dreams of leaving at some time in our lives, but when we reach the bottom, most of us go running home.” Deborah Curtis

Unless, perhaps, home itself is the bottom?

Is the Ubermensch supposed to be the singularity in a world without the “always already” triune original(s) we arrive to (rather than it arriving to us the way everybody be waiting for the singularity)?

and then it dawned on me like an incandescent lightbulb

It’s playing on how some of the right would even prefer autocratic sort of leftist regimes that are also capitalist - China and Russia - over have liberal McDonald’s capitalism.

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@greenfuse

American capitalism is a living nightmare and nobody other than libertarian retards buy into it anymore. [Bourgeois libertarianism.]

We’re now in the portion of American history where the neoliberal order is essentially dying where the nation is being divided up between fascists and communists. Not much room left for moderate political centrists or liberals anymore.

:clown_face:

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The problem as I see it is that communism (so far) and fascism lead to very similar power dynamics. An elite with tremendous arbritrary self-serving power. And I think the elites are trying to push us into one of those dystopias. They want to get us to ask for them. Things suck now, but full on autocracy with today’s technology behind it will make this look like heaven.

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@greenfuse

Depends on who gets into power politically.

Governments of all different kinds can be abused and the one we have here under the name of neoliberal capitalistic democratic representative republic we have essentially killed people all across the world, exploited many, and terrorized a bunch of people with.

If we can do all of that under the name of political liberalism it really makes you think.

Frankly after living under the horror of American Capitalism my entire life I am willing to give communism and Marxism a go myself. Some kind of socialist revolution is inevitable here.

:clown_face:

We all have the hunger for true meaning. However it is not force-fed to us. It is our choice to starve, to gorge ourselves with junk food, or to choose what truly satisfies and leads to well-being. You are what you eat.

Apparently you eat economics clearly devoid of (lacking either distribution or hoarding of) what really matters (the not yet, or the More that is always already).

Perhaps @Nausamedu would care to answer for Biggy?

If you’re lucky Zisek might read your not yet critique.

Here’s his email address: slavoj.zizek@guest.arnes.si

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You can email this to him if you feel like it:

Also this:

To what in particular cause there are dozens of quotes and ideas here.

Here:

THE ubermensch △ an u △ my u

Hm… sneaky?

Where is he getting that formulation/syntax from? I like it.

:ok_hand:

Only for a fee.

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Infinity

“There’s an infinity of things for you to learn.” Blaise Pascal

If only given a finite amount of time to learn them.

“Infinity lives in simplicity.” Pierre Lagrenat

You tell me.

“Limits provide the means to form. Without limits, there are no forms; the universe loses its meaning. On the other hand, limitless cannot have a form and cannot be formed; it is chaotic and meaningless.” Dejan Stojanovic

You tell me.

“The Being is finite and infinite. It is finite while contained within itself. When it is within itself as One, it becomes its opposite—the Nonbeing.” Dejan Stojanovic

Why? Dumb luck, I guess.

“Ages of universes pass while I look at books of nonsense, yet I think on and on of a love so far in the past it is incomprehensible to believe it was even real. What is love that it has such power?” Steven L. Peck

Philosophically, say.

“The finite does not (or cannot) comprehend the infinite.” Søren Kierkegaard

Not even close, he suspected. Infinity

It deserves much more power. You can judge a society on the quality of its jails and a universe by how central love is to even the ontology of that universe.

Hey greenfuse that weren’t bad.

Maeve Harrigan

Sometimes when you’re close to someone, when you trust them, you can’t see what’s right in front of your nose.

Not even virtually, I’ve been told.

Mother Nature is a heartless, pitiless, unsympathetic, brutal, barbaric bitch who knows no mercy or pardon. She only cares which fucker wins. But yet, you know, everybody loves her. Worships her. It doesn’t matter how much she hurts them. They keep coming back. Even if she breaks their hearts, burns their houses down, kills their babies. They love her to her bones.

Someone run this by…Maia? :wink:

Would you like a little free marriage guidance? You know, men… men are simple creatures, really. They like to think they’re rocks. But, you know, that thing you hold in your hand… not a rock, it’s an egg. It’s fragile, you know? It needs care. But, you know, like an egg, you can use it in all sorts of useful ways, like in a cake or an omelet, or a soufflé, or a carbonara, or, uh, egg drop soup or, um, egg salad. Potato salad with egg. Um, anything with hollandaise sauce. Now, like an egg, it’ll go off, sooner or later. Now, when it does, there is absolutely no point in getting angry. It’s an egg. It’s just doing what eggs do, you know, after a time. So, use it for your needs, keep it safe, out of the fridge, suck its cock from time to time. But don’t feel you have to listen to a fucking word it says, especially when it’s pissed.

On the other hand, pissed and…strapped?

A chain is as strong as its weakest link. It doesn’t need two of them.

Let alone another whole fucking gang of them.

I’ve always liked a good funeral. Free food and drink.

Cynical enough for you?

Maeve Harrigan: You didn’t tell me she was coming.
Harrigan: Oh, my mistake.
Maeve Harrigan: Is that your pet name for her?

Next up: pet names here.

Conrad Harrigan:

A man sees a way to fuck you over, fair play. It’s human nature, and there’s no mercy in nature. That’s what I love about it. If I am bigger than you, stronger than you, I’ll eat you or I’ll fuck you and then eat you. But go behind my back? I get it. Huh? I get it. I’ll put a bullet in your heart, but I won’t blame you.

All just part of “the business”. Or “the game”.

It’s always the same, in any orchard. You plant the trees. The trees grow tall. Then, sooner or later, they begin to get mangled, and before you know it, the apples start to rot.

If you get his drift. And you damn well better get it.

…this is no longer war, this is nuclear war.

And he’s loving it, of course.

Does she still have a nice one?

And let’s not forget who he is telling this to.

I am Conrad Harrigan. The Dread. Killer of a thousand men!

A bit hyperbolic, perhaps, but not by much.

You may be a good lawyer, but don’t forget, I’m still the fucking judge!

Not to mention the fucking jury and [when necessary] the fucking executioner.

Harry Da Souza

And one day when you are on the top and you’re looking down over all of this, I’ll be right there with you mate, right by your side. And I’ll push you off.

And so on.

Right now, I am in first gear. Would you like to see me shift to sixth?

And, in fact, some do.

Success breeds complacency. Complacency breeds hubris. Hubris breeds arrogance.

Next up: what arrogance breeds.

It’s all war, Conrad.

24/7 on occasions.

The words are many, the list is endless, so I don’t want to waste your time.

Always the gentleman, Ritchie.

If you look after the Harrigans, they will look after you. You do not look after the Harrigans, heaven help you.

Someone run this by God, okay?