Trinity of fools

[James_S_Saint]

@Jr Wells

There are three types of fools in this world:

1. Those who talk about what exists.
2. Those who talk about what they believe to exist.
3. Those who talk about what does not exist.

I believe that the greatest fool of the three is the third.

“What exists are those fools who talk about what exists.”

[Artimas]

We don’t know if dragons exist. But we can talk about them.

[Prismatic567]

@Jr Wells

There are three types of fools in this world:

1. Those who talk about what exists.
2. Those who talk about what they believe to exist.
3. Those who talk about what does not exist.

I believe that the greatest fool of the three is the third.

The greatest fools, the ignorant and stupid are those who assert 1-3 are fools.

It is very human to understand the above 1-3 are relevant and apply them in their respective contexts and perspectives for the well being of humanity.

[AutSider]

A convenient way to label everybody, including yourself, as a fool. For what reason, what purpose though?

I smell bitterness.

[Artimas]

If everyone was a fool we wouldn’t advance.

[Jr_Wells]

@Atheris

A convenient way to label everybody, including yourself, as a fool. For what reason, what purpose though?

I smell bitterness.

Bitterness is odourless, it is a taste not a smell.
I do not know what the experience of bitterness feels like. It is not part of me.

@Artimas

If everyone was a fool we wouldn’t advance.

Look around. Have we advanced?

[Jr_Wells]

@Prismatic567

@Jr Wells

There are three types of fools in this world:

1. Those who talk about what exists.
2. Those who talk about what they believe to exist.
3. Those who talk about what does not exist.

I believe that the greatest fool of the three is the third.

The greatest fools, the ignorant and stupid are those who assert 1-3 are fools.

It is very human to understand the above 1-3 are relevant and apply them in their respective contexts and perspectives for the well being of humanity.

No, the real greatest fool are those who assert that the ignorant and stupid are those who assert 1-3 are fools.

I feel that you do not understand my post (I could be wrong though).

[Jr_Wells]

@Kriswest

You declared their existence and now you say there are three. Yet no tub, how can there be three or one without a bathtub, I’d settle for bubble tubs if you have one and can really prove it exists.

I think you misunderstood me.
I said existence equals rubber ducks.
I did not say that rubber ducks exists.
These are two very different statements.

Given this, I think you are just being silly. Everyone knows that with the current situation of global warming that water is a rare and precious substance. It is so precious that it is non-existent and so I do not wish to talk about. Bathtubs used to exist but we got rid of these as they did not function due to the absence of water.

Don’t get me started on the decadent bubble that are made from non-existent water. The proletariats will slaughter the bourgeoisie scum for their non existent bubbles made from non-existent water. We are better off not mentioning bubbles as this may result in emotional outrage from both sides of the fence. I will only get caught in the crossfire as I am a fence sitter by nature. Fence sitters often get shot at from all directions. Sometimes it is easier to take sides. My fence is made from rubber ducks. Did you know that? But just three ducks as they only came in a pack of three (small, medium, large). At the rubber duck shop the ducker behind the counter wanted to supersize me but I thought that was a bit decadent (more decadent than bubbles).

[Jr_Wells]

@Ierrellus

@Artimas

You can’t advance without discussion of what exists, does not exist and what is believed to exist. It doesn’t work that way. A fool is one who’s ego has consumed them. They believe themselves to be smart and great.

Why would it be foolish to assume something does not exist if there was/is 0% evidence?

Agree. So, Jr., what should a wise person talk about?

I would not know Ierrellus. I am not wise. I am included within the trinity of fools.
But I can only imagine that wise people don’t talk as much as we do.
We talk a lot about stuff… don’t we? We seem to know a lot about stuff.
Do you believe that you are smart and great or do you believe you are a fool?

[Jr_Wells]

@phyllo

Why is it necessary stick the label ‘fool’ onto someone?

Why is it necessary to label someone as intelligent, smart or wise?
Nothing needs to stick to anything.

[Jr_Wells]

Seems interesting to me that there is such a strong objection to the word “fool”.

I did not call anyone a fool… other than myself.

[MagsJ (Surya Loka.. triumvirate)]

@Jr Wells

Look around. Have we advanced?

Humans hinder more than help.

[Jr_Wells]

@MagsJ

@Jr Wells

Look around. Have we advanced?

Humans hinder more than help.

We seem to link human progress with technology (the accumulation of knowledge). Therefor we become lesser fools because we have more knowledge.

In this modern society, technology is a pacifier. It has become entertainment. Even we on ILP think we are discussing critically important issues for human kind for the benefit of human kind. But… in reality… We are bored and lonely and want someone to talk to. The technology behind ILP helps to pacify our boredom and loneliness. There is nothing wrong with this as such but it does not by default turn us, or me, into sages.

We have advanced as humans simply to find an elaborate range of pacifiers. Knowledge has become the greatest of pacifiers and the greatest of weapons.

[Artimas]

@Artimas

If everyone was a fool we wouldn’t advance.

Look around. Have we advanced?

Yeah. Are we still riding horses and swinging swords? You tell me.

Not everyone is a fool regardless of technology, because some people can see that technology isn’t what brings wisdom. It just brings a reason for one to gain more wisdom.

We’re not as violent as what we were before. Still violent but not as much or consistent.

[Jr_Wells]

So riding horses and swinging swords makes humanity less advanced?
We have de-personalized violence with technology.
Dropping bombs on people is not violent but stabbing them with a sword is ???

What statistics do you use to back up your claim that we are not as violent as we used to be.
Rape, aggravated assault, robbery stats have increased in the US over the past 50 years - not lessened.

[phyllo]

A step in any direction can be called advancement. It all depends on where you want to go.

[turtle]

@Jr Wells

So riding horses and swinging swords makes humanity less advanced?
We have de-personalized violence with technology.
Dropping bombs on people is not violent but stabbing them with a sword is ???

What statistics do you use to back up your claim that we are not as violent as we used to be.
Rape, aggravated assault, robbery stats have increased in the US over the past 50 years - not lessened.

and we seem to be killing ourselves more…22 veterans a day kill themselves

[Jr_Wells]

@phyllo

A step in any direction can be called advancement. It all depends on where you want to go.

Precisely, it can be. Where are we going? Where do we want to go?

[Jr_Wells]

@turtle

and we seem to be killing ourselves more…22 veterans a day kill themselves

We seem to have more economic violence.
The gap between the rich and poor is widening.

[Artimas]

We also seem to have more people than before. Medicines, technology. Healthier birthing processing.

Back in the day you do science you get your head cut off and called a witch/alchemist. We’ve leaped far and will only continue to leap as people that conform die off. Newer generations will make leaps if they are taught/influenced properly.

The cells in our body pass off genetic information before dying, just as we do. We’re like the macro version of micro cells, influencing/passing down information. Inside and out. Characteristics and knowledge.

Back in the day you get angry at someone you could go kill them and get away if you wanted to. Better chances.