Sometimes they play dumb to hide that they are dumb.
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Your partisan ‘left/right and nothing else’ bullshit doesn’t belong in a philosophy forum. People have been having sex, aborting unwanted pregnancies, abandoning offspring, being hypocrites…for as long as there have been people, and LONG before there was any kind of concept of ‘left/right’.
You just conceded that ‘left’ has no meaning any more. ‘Mentally ill cultists’ are ‘mentally ill cultists’. The ‘mentally ill cult’ that has taken control of Western civilisation is a separate entity altogether from this seemingly mythical concept that used to be referred to as ‘left wing’, which was all about trade unions when workers had no rights, welfare for those who would otherwise starve, fairness, wealth distribution, universal access to good health care/education, when in reality it was simply human social evolution and enlightenment. Overall standards of living increased astronomically thanks to these ideas. It was NEVER about men in dresses punching women in the face and being lauded for it, or any of the other faux ‘injustices’ that fuckwits in academia manage to concoct to keep themselves grifting ad infinitum. ‘Left and Right’ are done. People need to stop using it or we are never going to get anywhere!
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Because you are in the ill cult (though are at least healthy enough to recognize that this is a bad thing that should be disowned), you lack the cognitive ability to understand how they are the same thing, part of the same matrix.
Your points of recognition are all emotional (the poor workers, the poor street people, etc) rather than rational. As soon as any rationale runs counter to any of these emotions, the thought ends, because emotion was the drive behind the thought anyway. Some people, like you and the magnanimous ill_Nulla, are intelligent enough to layer reason thickly on top. But the basis, thus the limits, remain emotional.
Yes. Men with beards, dresses and Big Brother cudgels are a direct descendant of worker’s unions.
Also you are wrong that that is how socialism started. It had existed a good hundred years already, and had been invented by industrialists, seeking to prune mankind of what they considered the unproductive elements, mainly church and nobility, with whom they had to compete for resources which they saw as elementally immoral. So the emotional-moral element was there from the inception. So was the notion that the State through the Government was the conduit for its imposition over mankind, willingly or unwillingly.
Yes, of course one chuckles now and then over the idea that the creators, inevitably by means of the mechanisms of action of the cult, ended up becoming its primary enemy (notionally, though, of course, in practice, it is state-friendly industrialists who always come out on top, again, given inevitably by the mechanisms of action of the cult).
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You are the one in a cult. Why is it then that I’m accused of being both ‘left’ and ‘right’ in equal parts by varying people on here? It’s because I take every situation on its own merits, based on facts and science, NOT on whether partisan cultists like you think it’s ‘left’ or ‘right’. It’s just so moronic. Anyone who uses ‘left’ or ‘right’ as a basis for any kind of argument shows themselves to be a shallow, lazy imbecile.
If you want to blame anyone for the insane cult of wokism then blame the post-modern so-called ‘philosophers’.
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The postmoderns were doing their best to work through the idiotic reasoning of traditional socialists while, for the same emotional reasons as you, being unable to drop the socialism overboard.
Right and left is sound. It marks a distinction between naturalist, traditionalist, conservative largely volunteerists and those whose entire ontological center of existence is the state.
In other words, your disagreement (borne out of a misunderstanding of what gives both their and your position) with the “wokeists” is not about the fundamental frame, that morality exists, is the business of the state, and should be imposed with absolute scope and unrestricted force. That anything else is not only wrong, but insane and marked for elimination. You both depart from the premise of opressed and opressor, of materially productive vs metaphysical and wasteful. Of Good People vs Evil Leeches. You disagree only on details which, if you zoom back and look at the framework (which those in your cult who roll up their sleeves and get to work do), are actually unimportant.
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il_Nulla:
If these are vague concepts for you then i have nothing more to say cause you are asking me to hand hold you about elementary school level knowledge
Sorry. No. Ask an AI or something or feel free to believe that they are just my incoherent and insane ramblings since you cant make heads or tails of it anyway.
K: so this translated means, I can’t defend my own statements,
so, I’ll attack your statement instead…
nulla has nothing to say because he knows nothing about
liberalism… and apparently nothing about history either…
I’ll just mark this down as another person at ILP who has
no clue about, well, anything… just spouting shit because
that is all they know …
Kropotkin
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Right and left aren’t sound the two party system is limiting.
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I disagree with you about everything there except one thing that abortion is bad and that liberals do not make good parents.
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Hahaha tell me who you agree with, and I’ll tell you the value of your position 
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Wow. What an amazing ‘gotcha’. And the detail and depth of his comment is awe-inspiring (not to mention the grammar).
Oh, I agree with you on some things, therefore we are identical in every way 
Fuck, you morons just don’t get it. You are so brainwashed with your American bullshit that any kind of reasonable discourse is impossible. Humans are fucked. You are never going to ‘get’ my point so kindly stop talking to me.
Mistress… You would know this how?
Tell me a cultist who can be reasoned with.
I don’t know, sometimes you come out with a cogent thing or two.
You want to find the ones that try to cognitively dissociate from the cult on some level.
Felt like flying to some Hungarian colony , because I picked up some Hungarian in the above.
Will try to comment and get involved in this interesting repartee!
It is Nulia commenting on Greenhouse’s blog.
Anything Hungarian immediately reflects to a personal reference to me because I appear alone here
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Bro. You are one of the most sexist and outright man hating person on this forum who at times cant even be asked to calm the fuck down and formulate a few sentences without an emotional load.
If i can take that you are at times spitting in my face because of an immutable characteristic i was born with, then you should be able to take the notion that im going to call you trash based on your political affiliation, ESPECIALLY since people like @Peter_Kropotkin are doing the same thing here on a weekly basis too, even if with less spicy expression than i do.
TL;DR: You are the last person whom i want to hear this from. Curb your hypocrisy and grab a mirror cause if i dont belong onto a philosophy forum for abhoring the specific brand of liberals then you are way past that and then some more.
Im leaving everything else to the mods. If it was too much, then remove me, but i aint gonna be criticized for my speech by a misandrist.
Yes. Thats exactly what it means. When someone tells you that they wont take it on themselves to teach you basic math because you do not understand 1+1, clearly means that they dont understand math.
For shits and giggles i pasted my post to 3 of my friends.
Instantly understood my point and what i am getting at.
So whether you are playing stupid or are actually stupid: I dont care. I told you: Ask an AI to walk you through it. Do not take my time with your coping about the wound your ego received.
He clearly attempted a personal reference.
Aside from the ass idiotic implication that in a world where the left is going assaulting and assassinating people, he gonna question someone on the center right whether or not they really want violence.
Its been a while since someone said something so retarded to me that it actually got to me, but this one did take the cake, the table, the chairs and half the house with it.
Fucking half of my life i spent with repeating that maybe we shouldnt be going down this road where we strip away rights from society based on a mentally retarded group’s feelings and emotional baggage, and when after 20 years i proclaim that the people who did it regardless, who introduced violence again because they refuse to speak and communicate, then its put to my fucking feet that i am the one who wants violence?
There are no words in the english language to express what i felt upon that accusation/question.
And @greenfuse . We ARE going to have violence. Whether or not i want it. Whether or not you want it. And its going to be because for 20 years nobody gave a single shit about drawin a line and saying that feelings do not warrant violence.
No. Instead everyone enabled that shit, politicians ran on it/for it, and today we have an entire holy fucking tree of life of activism built around it that escalates it every each passing second further and further.
There will be violence my brother. Whether i want it or not. And i foretold it 20 fucking years ago.
And im VERY SORRY that me accurately pointing out that it was the liberals that did all of this, offends people.
Feel free to shoot me in the neck for it. It doesnt matter one way or another.
@Nausamedu ‘‘Whine whine butt-hurd little man whine whine…’’
Whatever that whining drivel means. You don’t seem to have any problem with all the screaming misogyny on this site, little penis-haver. So what’s my ‘political affiliation’ then genius?
Idiot uses an initialism that I had to look up and then goes on to say that he did, in fact, read it.
So fucking tedious. You do realise that nothing you say is going to make any sense whatsoever until you define these ‘flogging a dead horse’ labels that you obviously don’t have a clue what they actually mean, don’t you?
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Hahahahahhaha that was unnecessarily violent.
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