What delusions are the hardest to get rid of?

Every person I know is egotistical.

Each of us thinks we’re a very special person on the planet, and we root for ourselves - even tho we can acknowledge we’re just another human, it seems you can’t shake up the stance of you being particular. Could we get rid of that?

A world consisting of 8.3 billion special people is quite odd

Maybe some people get to get rid of that… and maybe that’s detrimental for them (why care for yourself more than for others?)

Same happens with offspring, family, friends and so

What other biases/delusions are impossible to get rid of?

Im sure one point of that list involves your self-crafted definitions for words which you are unable to let go of even when you contradict yourself 3 times in row… aside from that there is no universal bias everyone shares and is impossible to get rid of.

Everyone has their own cross.

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That one is not delusional or bias, or that one is not truly delusional or bias when they think they admitting to them is a form of transcendence of them.

The bias that the physicalist ontology isn’t also a metaphysical position and that it has been proved.

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The bias that some biases are impossible to get rid of.

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“Good things happen to good people.”

“Bad things happen to bad people.”

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If you can’t prove it to others, then you shouldn’t believe it.

Some people don’t have beliefs based on intuition.

Emotions are a problem, need to be controlled and they are irrational.

You shouldn’t complain if you don’t have a solution.

You shouldn’t believe you exist. I agree there: belief is unnecessary

So, if someone is running over your dog in order to enter the driveway, you shouldn’t complain if you don’t have a solution

Well, it’s generally aimed at people complaining about societal problems. It’s not aimed at every possible situation where you might complain.

@pseudoai

Just because everyone you know is egotistical does not mean that everone on the planet is.

In my experience, holding the belief that it is “impossible to get rid of” is part of the delusion.

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Those don’t seem to be a lot of problems. Like, because you don’t know how to avoid treating people differenty according to race, you shouldn’t complain?

I have no idea what you’re talking about. Let’s say you complain about bullying in school. Sometimes when you complain and the idea is you want something to be done, there is this expectation that you should have a solution. If you don’t, then you shouldn’t complain. I think that’s silly. That was this delusion/bias…..

You shouldn’t complain if you don’t have a solution.

There were 3 others in that post.

Any complain mostly means “Don’t do that” as a proposal… so…?

I don’t know what you mean. I don’t think most complaints aimed at facets of society mean ‘Don’t do that.’ If that’s what you mean.

Complains about police brutality mean don’t use uneeded forece (don’t do that). Complaints about racism mean don’t discriminate based on race (don’t do that). Complaints even about the price of things mean don’t make the prices so high ( a ‘don’t do that’). So, the proposal is there - maybe not the complete full-fledged idea of all its consequences and ramifications.

Now, do you think there are complaints about social stuff that don’t point to an alternative?

Huh. I never said that. You’re not giving solutions. And often people want something to happen that doesn’t happen. Or they want something to function better. Or don’t like something but know you can’t just wish it away. But you go to a town meeting and tell them that you have complaints and solutions and you can then share the kinds of solutions you mentioned as see if they agree you have solutions. How do you reduce the police brutality?

Solutions? Solutions to what? Well, if the problem is the killing of seals, people saying “Don’t kill seals” are giving a solution.

People do say “don’t make excessive use of force” for police brutality.

Now, that doesn’t make the proposal for solutions better but there are proposals in each complaint

Those aren’t solutions, those are wishes. Instead of using a magical wand that doesn’t work, they complained to someone. If they think those are solutions, they are confused. But my whole point was that you needn’t have a solution. I don’t think there is any moral or practical reason why only people who have solutions should be allowed to complain. But those are not solutions.

what distinguishes a solution from a wish here?