What is normal

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Re. the op:

A basal level of normalcy exists, then actions/concepts/ideals veers/projects out from that normalcy, denoted.. by the differing sub-species ethnicities and cultures that sprung forth.
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So.. abstract concepts -like morality governance and philosophy etc.- also diverge from this baseline.
What one ethnic group views as a standard practice, another views as a radical projection.

It would be foolish to feel/imagine a connection of normalcy with those that wish you harm or hate your very existence.

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All advancement is divergence from normal and there is no progress/regress/digression/devolution, and normal is devoid of actual moral significance, which is an unexplainable delusion you can’t even liken to combining horses with rhinoceroses & rainbows to imagine a unicorn.

…am I understanding everyone correctly?

Or should I go full Daffy and say… the natural is the moral… so go be whatever sexual weirdness you observe in other species… totally works with humans, too… as does asexual reproduction.

#evidence-based

Just ask m’darlin Clementine:

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‘Normal’ is a psychological term indicating adherence to cultural ideals - social utilities.

In this psychologists are society’s gatekeepers.

In nature ‘normal’ refers to what psychosomatic traits an individual requires to successful carry out its survival and reproductive functions.

We are moving from natural to social selective pressures.

All value-judgements require an objective.

In nature it is the continuation of life - to which reproduction is such a continuation.

In manmade and maintained systems the objective is determined by the prevailing ideology.

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On objective requires the ability to value…it’s what you want. We’ve been over this.

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Philosophy… in the end …is a game of who can make the most people solve the riddle without spoiling the surprise, innit???

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And only that which needs and desires has objectives…

You are trapped.

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They are the same thing.

friggen 25 seconds … 12 …5

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No…I use them to differentiate needs founded on lack from desires founded on excess…excess as a byproduct of successful satisfaction of needs.

Lack = needs requiring satisfaction - replenishing of energies lost to attrition.

Desires = excess requiring expunging - product of successful satisfaction of needs.

You are trapped.

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ok question … were you just robbing Nietzsche who was robbing Aristotle?

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Those who share the same existence come to the same conclusions if, and only if, they also share the same constitution and motives.

Men lost in the deserts of the real will eventually find their way to the same watering holes…from different directions.

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Sounds like we’re back at the infinite well.

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You are lost in the deserts of your mind… Platonic caves…looking for a pathfinder with a candle.

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To put it differently…‘normal’ in social contexts refers to cultural fitness determined by group dynamics and an underlying worldview - ideology/dogma.

Normal in natural contexts refers to fitness.

A two-headed goat is abnormal, because it inhibits survival and reproductive potentials…as is homosexuality and transexuality.

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The worldview that values every personhood equally is a balanced one. Flipping the script is every other making much of the other. The only legitimate way to multiply value without limit.

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You’re as scrupulous as an icepick in the eye. I can say that much of you.

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So, everything is of “equal value” because our objectives must be collective?

Your objective is not clarity, not truth…but uniformity.

So, even though you perceive multiplicities you crave a singularity- even though you perceive disparities you crave sameness…

Your motives are anti-existence, aren’t they? You consider existence deplorable, unjust, brutal…so you imagine an alternative which negates it…

You are a nihilist. Lost in the deserts fo the real…for more than 40 years.

Have you not been told of the burning bush? Let them lead you to their promised land…they were chosen for this task…they were given your enslavement as their reward.

They own you.

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I didn’t say everything we value is of equal value. Only persons…the sources of value. You can’t devalue a person without self-destructing.

You’re like magic. Go away.

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Persons are of equal value to whom?

No, they “OUGHT” to be so, right? Because you feel you are not appreciated as you OUGHT to be, right?

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I’ve said enough.

Human persons are in existence, as are all life forms.

But you require preferential treatments…as you are ailing from a dis-ease.

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You are a person. If you devalue personhood, you take it personally. Your psyche cannot distort without dissonance or compensating for it.

We are persons. If we devalue personhood, we take it personally. Our psyches cannot distort without dissonance or compensating for it.

I am a person. If I devalue personhood, I take it personally. My psyche cannot distort without dissonance or compensating for it.

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Who devalues person-hood?

Ha!!!