You settled it for me. You said, paraphrased: that men & women are individuals and both are responsible for their actions.
This implies that men & women are “equally”-responsible for themselves.
I disagree; I don’t think that women are responsible for themselves. <> at all.
They need men to make decisions, or so-called “choices”, for them.
Therefore, either you are wrong or I am wrong.
You are subjugating morality right now; objectivity seems rather irrelevant within this context.
Okay.
i have made no claims about responsibility. The only claims I have made have been regarding the origins of morality.
Here, let me show you. I asked:
You replied:
Thus, I conclude, and others may follow, that you “ignored” the unspoken ‘responsibility’ at work between women and men.
You, subconsciously, do not legitimize women as being moral authorities, because, as seen, they are not responsible for themselves.
Therefore, I think this argument is closed for now. – Thank you.
I really have no idea what you are talking about now.
Basically, what was said between you and I is that women do not have any self-responsibility as “individuals”.
Therefore, men can validly-treat them like objects, which means that prostitution, pornography, and casual sex are all “okay”, by your reasoning.
What kind of insane leap in logic is this? I never said this.
You implied it by avoiding the moral connotations of abortion, namely, that women are not responsible for the abortions they have.
isn’t such ‘responsibilty’ entirely relative? 
I never claimed women were or were not responsible for the abortions they had. I would love to see you provide a numbered argument from my two premises explicitly deducing this though.
But since you bring up the moral connotations of abortion, I will add a third premise.
Absolutely. Just as the individual person chooses his own moral laws, he chooses how he thinks we should hold or not hold people accountable for their actions.
the question i think, is indeed very important, and it would be absurd to answer it in terms of religous dogma.
however i think there might very well be something wrong with all these three, and it could be the form of human relationship they represent: humanbeings represented solely as objects of egoistical satisfaction.
when you read magazine such as cosmopolitan, or watch TV-commercials, all these representations are trying to make you desire something; they produce desire. and we enjoy them, because we believe that their promise of fulfilment is true, we enjoy them like we enjoy, if we hear, we have just won in lottery, or might have won. in a similar sense we try to seduce each other sexually and we also have the fulfilment every once in a while. this of course is very natural, and in no ways bad in it self. one can however make the question, is responding to all these stimuli that try to make us desire different forms of fulfilments actually good? and is it good for ones self to satisfy all these desires?
take for example heroin: it definetly makes one feel good. but when one starts to use it, one is thrown into a situation, where one cannot repeat the fulfilment given by the drug without it, and is in danger to become an addict. it was the big question of burroughs´s, whether is it possible to get the same results offered by drugs without them and all the negative side-effects.
pornography in my opinion actually devaluates sex: it only makes it boring, or alternatively creates new desires, which need to be satisfied while at the same time making the singular act of sexual intercourse less satisfying. one has to have analsex, blowjobs in car, all the stuff one sees in those movies. but at the same time the sexual act itself becomes more and more masturbationlike, where the other person is nothing but a representation of sexual organs and a field of sexual accomplishment.
casual sex and prostitution are somewhat different. in some cultures, e.g. masai culture all people of a same age class are allowed to have sex with each other. in my opinion there should be nothing wrong in having sex with various partners except for the reason it generates jealosity and thus social conflict. this is propably the reason why marriage institution has been developed. however i think one shouldn´t get too hooked on sex. its nice even when its bad, but to be to be too hooked on it is to be in constant state of unfulfilment and desire.
in general i think, that the fact that people fall in love (and love definetly makse sex better) speaks for monogamy.
I don’t partake in those things, but if others want to that is up to them! 
We all have different wants/needs/morals, so some deem it wrong where others just see those things as a part of life/fun/pleasure…
You have over 6000 posts in an internet forum, but you’ve never watched any porn? That’s impressive… 
i didn’t understand what you meant here. What’s the connection between posting in an internet forum and watching porn?
Btw, I know a lot of people that never watched porn, and never wanted to.
Wow… That is a pretty outrageous claim! If the whole world gave up sex then we would all be gone in one generation.
I can’t see it,even those that abstain voluntarily still think about sex or have sex on the sly… Pregnant Nuns for example, if those that firmly believe in abstinence can’t keep from abstaining then, I just can’t see the rest saying, I quit. If it happens, warn me, there will be a crap load of road rage and folks going postal, I think I would want to hide for a number of years.
I need them. I like to reproduce. Evolution needs reproduction. Who reproduces t * gret rte is more successful thn the impotents.
hmm?
do you ‘need’ prostitution and pornography to ‘reproduce’??
Consider that they are not for reproduction but, for release of sexual stress, humans are pretty closely related to rabbits in this. A rabbit will hump anything if its horny. Horny causes stress. Stress causes thinking to go out the window. Release of pent up horny stress is a must or there would be humans out their humping anything,Oh wait, there already is… See we are like rabbits.
I mean, you would think even by accident…
In the words of Dr Perry Cox, "I’m pretty sure that if they took all the porn off the internet there’d only be one website left… And it’d be called “Bring Back The Porn”.