woke

From dictionary.com

wokeism:
Usually Disparaging. promotion of liberal progressive ideology and policy as an expression of sensitivity to systemic injustices and prejudices:
She worked for nearly a decade at the university before she finally tired of the influence of wokeism.
“The only religion allowed around here is wokeism,” he complained.

Okay, but is there or is there not the conservative equivalent of this? Liberals go after those who don’t think like they do about race or gender or sexual orientation or abortion or capital punishment or gun control or religion. What, and conservatives don’t in turn insist that in order to be truly “awake”, others are obligated to think as they do? There’s not a right-wing rendition of “politically correct”?

Aren’t the moral and political and religious objectivists here often fanatically “woke”? You think like they do or you are stupidly sound asleep to reality.

Look what I’ve reduced her to…
#-o

Am I that formidable?

Note to Others
No really…

Did she already destroy PN?
If not…I’m taking wagers.
How long before this cunt reduces another forum to another shithole?
With her a-philosophy philosophy…and her amorality morality.

Another thread bites the dust!

:laughing:

Yeah…because before this cunt was really contributing to philosophy, with her a-philosophy philosophy.

Words with no referent.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jUxrcl4Q-M[/youtube]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR5srUjgqr4[/youtube]

K: ahhhh, the youtube gambit… the one that show us how lazy you are…
if youtube didn’t exist, would you be able to have a thought?
would anything come to your mind without youtube?
Seriously doubt it…

Kropotkin

Oh Peter Krap…you are so smart.
How can I ever hope to match your intellect?

There’s no youtube to help me reach your level.

"As President Trump seeks to purge the federal government of “woke” initiatives, agencies have flagged hundreds of words to limit or avoid, according to a compilation of government documents.

The terms [below] appeared in government memos, in official and unofficial agency guidance and in other documents viewed by The New York Times. Some ordered the removal of these words from public-facing websites, or ordered the elimination of other materials (including school curricula) in which they might be included." nyt

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activists
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community diversity
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First, of course: can you fucking believe this?! Secondly, how is this not basically just another rendition of woke? Trump and his ilk seemingly loathe these words, so they set out to “wake people up” in order that they can loathe them too. Thirdly, I expect all Trump supporters here to refrain from using them other than in a disparaging manner.

Oh, and don’t just “limit” using them use, grow a pair and utterly avoid using them altogether.

The Danger of the Woke Right
Roger Berkowitz
arendt@bard.edu

Of all the problems with left-wing wokeness that insisted on the power to force people to speak in certain ways, one was always that it could so easily be co-opted by the right.

The “woke wars” in other words. Whether in regard to race or gender or sexuality or any other issue in which liberals and conservatives [and their radical ilk] have dramatically conflicting assessments and solutions.

After all, look at all the liberal programs/policies that Elon Trump has “cancelled”.

instead, what’s crucial, in my view, is the extent to which these policies are enforced either by way of “might makes right”, “right makes might” or “democracy and the rule of law”. As long as one or another rendition of moderation, negotiation and compromise prevails no one gets it all. In other words, the moral and political objectivists among us [left and right] insist it’s “all or…else”

See how it works? When liberals “cancel” something, it’s woke. When conservatives “cancel” something, it’s principled and entirely justified.

And most objectivists [left and right] are so blinded by the light, they can’t even acknowledge their own hypocrisy.

Holy shit, that is based as fuck.

I doubt trump and his clan are really that epic.

The social warfare psychological games of dialectical tension and emotional manipulation are at work here. Trump et al. do not care about fighting woke, they are just stoking the fires of the current cultural divide.

Trump is a chaos-agent. Remember that first and foremost. He might do or say some pretty epic things, but. BUT. Give it time, and pay attention to the developments and changes that get less media time and most people don’t know about. He is a member of the billionaire technocrat class. Never forget that, or what their plans are for you and me, for all of us and the future of humanity.

I asked Musk to replace banned words and concept with “rabbit”
See how it works for you…
Rabbitism:
Usually used critically, it refers to the promotion of certain rabbit ideas.
She worked for nearly a decade at the university before she finally tired of the influence of rabbitism.
“The only belief system allowed around here is rabbitism,” he complained.

Okay, but is there or is there not the conservative equivalent of this? Some insist that others must rabbit a certain way on various rabbit issues. What, and conservatives don’t in turn insist that in order to be truly “awake,” others are obligated to rabbit as they do? There’s not a right-wing rendition of “rabbitly correct”?

Aren’t Rabbit and political and Rabbit objectivists here often fanatically “Rabbit”? You rabbit like they do or you are stupidly sound asleep to reality.

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Any rabbit objectivists here?

Anyway, I’m not at all sure what his point is. Is he accusing me of being “stupidly sound asleep to reality?”

If so, and just for the record…

It seems that Sculptor and I share many of the same religious and political prejudices. It’s just that I recognize them as value judgments rooted existentially and intersubjectively – historically and culturally and experientially – in dasein.

But, in my view [though I may be completely wrong], with those like Sculptor, it’s not enough to share his moral political and spiritual biases.

Instead, you either agree with him about, well, everything or he’ll come after you for the parts derived from your own stupidity?

Unless, perhaps, I’m wrong?

Click, of course.

But that doesnt mean Wokeism isnt real and dangerous… Woke is also instilling sexual thoughts in small children, and not just sexual thoughts but thoughts that they might want to get themselves mutilated and infertilized… children are exposed to that! Is the fact that radical rightism is real an excuse for that?

Wokeism is what got Trump elected. The left went too far in dehumanizing, de-cultivating. Trump turns out to be more of a punishment, a karmic consequence, than a cure.

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The American electorate and the European electorate seem to be two different political beasts.

Maybe that’s why Trump enacts a ‘karmic consequence’ style of governance… so what works.

Well in the Netherlands we elected an anti woke anti mass-immigration, anti EU anti climate deal anti Zelenski-mob candidate (the guy who has been living in a bunker), but he got thwarted by the deep state and is completely powerless, and the totalitarian EU agenda just keeps rolling along.

On Trump, I dont have a good feeling about him anymore. I think he is making a lot of mistakes, for one thing his treatment of Canada, which has made the liberal party there much stronger, basically united Canada against him. He equated Trudeau and his policies with the whole nation of Canada, choosing to hurt their economy (he says it is over the fentanyl, which seems a weak reason) and then acting indignant when Canada retaliates.

I think Musk with his random firing of people is kind of gutting the structure of the nation. He is not being discriminate, careful, but wielding a chainsaw. Doge seemed like a great idea but it doesnt seem like he knows what he is doing. I am back to agreeing with Bannon, it is bad for Trump to surround himself with all these billionaires. That is not what the original movement was about.

I agree with his anti woke policies though.

Which tells me a lot about you and the things you have been posting here. I wouldn’t trust you an inch!

I don’t trust you either, you seem like a bigoted totalitarian. But I suppose you think I am lying, which I am not. I simply think nationalism is needed in this time of the totalitarian left, the undemocratic EU and such. I think Trump is going about nationalism the wrong way.