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Welcome to Amurikaa. Land of… freedom and prosperity, so long as freedom means accepting every depravity and willingly suspending any truthjudgment when it comes to the depraved stupid shit your favored “leaders” are doing,-- and “prosperity” as long as we can print the world reserve currency from our Fed Reserve machines and continue to borrow 1 TRILLION dollars every 75 days just to maintain the payments on the existing debt… oh yeah. America is really the amazing world superpower, wow.

Look past the media and the windowdressing and the trumpian tweets and the MAGA nonsense and the hypes and see what is really happening. Do I need to spell it out?

Trump is the chaos-agent chosen to end America. To place the final nail in the coffin. Sure, maybe the plan extends beyond him, maybe more will come after him. So what? Time is irrelevant, it is only relatively meaningful.

I am. Just. TIred of spelling things out. It grows very very tedious. No one sees anyrhing, not the connections or whats happening tomorrow or a year or decade from now, no just… whatever hits their screenfeed in the last 90 seconds. Ok then, well. GOod luck with that, I guess.

Meanwhile yeah “woke” is bullshit and already having harmed an entire generation of children and young people, and firmly instantiated itself into the cultural and academic-institutional ethos everywhere in so-called “western” society, Trump and his little band of “rebel billionaires “for the people”” (do NOT make me laugh that hard) are free to attack it for political scoring points. Wow. Truly amazing, that Trump and his merry band were nowhere to be seen while his former presidency was stolen from him and from The People in a coup in 2020 which Trump allowed to occur with no protest whatsoever, except to lead his own people into to fed protest psyop trap on Jan 6.

Then again, last time around Trump let Hillary go on his first day, despite all the Lock Her Up stuff. But yeah, I am literally the only human being on planet earth who remembers that.

Welcome to the power of the Media Age. You are all fucking slaves. Own it. Be the slavebitches you already are, and worship and love it like you already do. I cannot even express my absolute desdain for you all.

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@ HumAnIze You have been saying that the US is going to hell and that that is inevitable. Could be. Trump is looking like a chaos agent, like Biden was, but more so. But what is the conclusion beyond that, what should be done, what is proper philosophy in this light?

I honestly dont know anymore, I had VO to resurrect the west but ive been destroyed, VO will remain unknown. But you still have strength. What is your perspective beyond the inevitable end of the US? Is it the death of humanity due to AI? Does western philosophy thus turn out to be irrelevant, futile, impotent?

It does seem like the secret traditions of Taoism are gaining more relevance, the miracle birthing, ‘supernatural’ stuff, perhaps China is under its surface preparing for a renaissance, a birth of a superior human consciousness.

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You don’t read what people say, perhaps your English isn’t as good as you think.

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I’ll ignore that remark. I suppose reading your other post that you are not a totalitarian and that our views on Europe do not differ as much as our views on Bannon. Who was busy starting a Christian-Classical university of sorts in Italy at one point, I don’t know what happened to that. Edit - It may not be all I expected of it - it seems a bit reactionary. They don’t teach Latin or astronomy or anything like that.

I think that a European unity must rest on at least two pillars, one of which is still going to be nationalism. Not just popular interests but language, which is crucial to identity and thus, political will. The other is our cultural roots in Greece and Italy. Germany needs to submit to that origin, it is simply not fit for spiritual/ideological rulership, despite all its cultural treasures.

Im entirely leaving out Britain, as I don’t know what to think about it in European terms. For a long time it tended to interfere with mainland politics to create instability in order to retain its dominance. And it seems that it is of all European countries the most thoroughly confused.

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How did they manage to achieve that, contentious, goal… a case of might over right?

Sounds like the EU are trying to homogenise Europe, even though there are both genetic and cultural distinctions between countries.

…a world without borders is only implementable in a crime-free moral ethical utopia.

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I think that Trump is doing more good than harm… many countries support and admire his agenda, but the legacy media are obviously gonna bury those headlines.

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Does this clown have a name?

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“How did they manage to achieve that, contentious, goal… a case of might over right”

First all other parties refused to work with him if he would sit in government, so he wasn’t allowed to be prime minister. So he opted to remain in parliament and proposed a candidate for prime minister. Then the media was fed some ridiculous way to slander that candidate so he decided not to do it, then the deep state (the main intelligence service) proposed their own agency head, someone who has led that agency for over a decade, for prime minister and since the guy who won had no other options he agreed. Then, the deep state leader went behind his back on financial EU issues and the parties with whom his party formed a government (all party leaders stayed in parliament) blocked him on basically every important issue. Note that the guy has a fatwa on him, and he lives in a bunker. Which of course Carleas and other leftists think is not at all any indication of a dangerous influence having entered our lands. Or they manage to convince themselves that it is not true.

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I havent voted for him by the way. And Ive always been disappointed by the politics of the parties I voted for.

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Geert Wilders has long positioned himself as a defender of Dutch identity against what he sees as the threat of Islamisation. His rhetoric—often inflammatory and deliberately provocative—has been central to both his rise and fall in Dutch politics.

His downfall was not just about his stance on immigration or Islam but the way he framed the issues. Calling violent attackers “multicultural scum” and likening incidents to a “Jew hunt” crossed a line for many, even those who might have agreed with his concerns about crime and integration. His remarks sparked political turmoil, alienated coalition partners, and deepened social divisions.

Essentially, his refusal (or inability) to moderate his language—especially while in a governing coalition—meant that his political influence was ultimately unsustainable.

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He actually won the election and is still the highest in the polls, there has been no downfall, just an exclusion by the other parties.

He didnt come up with the term Jew-Hunt, that was what a guy in a car who was filming, when there was an ecstatic hunt for Israeli football supporters going on, was actually saying. X was full of clips like that, some Muslims were even having checkpoints in the street checking peoples passports to see whether they were Jewish. If so (Israeli), they would get beat up.

“Vandaag gaan we op Jodenjacht jongen, op Jodenjacht! Kankerhoeren!”
“Today we go on Jew-hunt boy, on Jewhunt! Cancerwhores!”

https://x.com/geertwilderspvv/status/1855341049792929811?lang=en

Again, Wilders has a fatwa on him and lives in a bunker, the threat of Islamization is pretty real for him. As it is for me. I also live under an islamic death sentence.

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Yes, it is true that Geert Wilders has faced several death threats, including fatwas issued against him by extremist groups. As a result, he has lived under constant security protection for years.

His outspoken criticism of Islam - in particular his calls for a ban on the Koran, his comparisons of Islam with totalitarian ideologies and his 2008 short film Fitna, which linked Islam to terrorism - has made him a high-profile target. He has been on Islamist hit lists, and groups such as al-Qaeda and the Pakistani Taliban have called for his assassination.

Because of these threats, Wilders has lived under tight security for nearly two decades, moving between secure locations and always accompanied by bodyguards. He has also faced legal challenges in the Netherlands for hate speech but has used both the threats and the court cases to bolster his image as a defender of free speech against what he calls the dangers of Islamisation.

I am, if you are interested, for a strict deportation for anyone who attempts to coerce anyone for their criticism of Islam and find the courts arguing that the perpetrators could be in danger when they return to their country of origin as travesty. The problem is that that laws that protect European citizens tend to assume that people living here will respect them, but they are being used to defend the indefensible.

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That is more firm than I would dare to say it, Ive already been conditioned by ‘how it is’, but I would agree.

It is the conundrum of being tolerant to the intolerant. Islam claims diversity in the societies it is a guest in (the mayor of London even equated integration with diversity in one interview, as if there was never an English culture) but in islamic societies it is rare to see a tolerance for different ideologies. They aren’t generally very diverse.

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Having said what I have, there is a huge majority of Moslems who are against coercing Europeans, let alone violence against them. They might be compromised by their beliefs, but they see radical Islam as a problem. I had a deputy manager from Turkey and other staff members who told me as much.

He said, that our problem in the West is that there are many contradictory aspects about our society, and sometimes, it is hard to respect people whose behaviour is undignified. I couldn’t disagree, and noticed that, without praising him too much, he showed me that I too had become complacent and accepted some things that we should try to prevent.

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Nah. Wilders is a non entity.

The Party for Freedom Partij voor de Vrijheid
4 seats in a Senate of 75, and 37 out of 150 H of Reps.

Not exactly a landslide

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Lijst van politieke partijen in Nederland - Wikipedia.

It is the largest party in parliament out of 16. If there is such a thing as a landslide in Dutch politics it is this. No coalition without him was possible.

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That lady is very woke.

Like the idea that black people are too stupid to get an ID and that therefore voter ID requirements are racist. Which Ive heard a lot of white people, democrats, supposedly anti-racists, say.

If Trump is removed, or simply finishes his term and a democrat wins, that isn’t going to necessarily make for a better situation. Just another type of decay. I admit that with Trumps reign now the democrats look relatively decent in their protests, but protesting is easy. Destroying Teslas or even blocking orders isn’t the same as getting people back to health and intelligence.

I would think the 72 largely untested vaccines children now have to endure play large part in the decay. How can it not damage the system, such an indiscriminate chemical onslaught? In Europe we have like 4 mandatory vaccines and that works well.

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What is the matter with you?
You are a really confused person.

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Im reporting what I heard people say.

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I wish I knew the future, then again maybe I should be glad that I am ignorant of it. Whatever comes will come to pass, no humans and no normal or highly intelligent or good people will stand in the way. THAT I have already proven and verified to myself beyond any doubts.

We lost. By ‘we’ I mean regular good decent normal human beings. Why did they lose? Well because philosophy failed them. Yes, this is all philosophy’s failure and consequence. Oh sure, philosophy was already corrupted academically long ago, and sure blah blah it’s not their fault , whatever ok sure good times. Tell yourself that. It doesn’t matter. Yuri Bezmenov moments be like. And when was the last time a western European philosopher spoke well or made a positive impact on European peoples? Or even just talked some plain truths?

Naw, you got today the truth is only spoken in dark internetcorners and in terms of memes or anon basement trolls or actually racist far right deathsquads. No, truth is dead. The idea that Trump and his merry little band of billionaires is somehow going to speak some truthsl… utterly amazing.

I almost feel bad for all those boomers and millennials who will lose everything in the market crash. 401k and all that, social security, just wow… truly incredible. You actually trusted the federal government, federal reserve, wall street, and some normie as fuck financial adviserfags at your local bank to tell you what to do with your lifetime of hardwon savings. Ok, good luck with that.

Meanwhile there will be starvation and rioting, great depression times whatever the multiplier effect of the ‘everything bubble’ ends up being. At least compared to 2008. But this system is rigged to crash and burn, maybe you are right that China will lead the charge in the new century toward a more asian focus, a different collective of truths. Why not? Despite the amazing and beautiful truths and people cultivated under the bosom of Europe, how many of those western people TODAY would you count on to carry a single fucking truth, just one? Well for me the answer is zero. But I do know at least one asian person who can carry some truths. Theirs is still a deeper more foundarional civilization, and that could be coming back.

In any case I can’t possibly give any less fucks than I already do. Everyone I know gave up, no one cares about truth or anything I ever said. No one in my entire life ever listened to me even once. SO fuck everything. I will embrace my own openly pathological reaction and my own latent borderline personality disordered shittiness as a modern fuckedup human being, at least I have sex and my whiskey bottles to give some meanings back. FUck knows Ive already put in my own meanings and valuations plenty. I deserve at least a little respite. Part of which is finally not needing to give a single fuck for any sorry ass ignorant cunt who gets what is already coming to him as a consequence of his own absolute fucking stupidity and narcissism. Cheers, congrats. Trump won! AHAHA yay! DOGE! WOW! The billionaires love you! You won!

And to all you fucking leftist liberal fucktards… jesus christ. There are no words. Just spontaneously combust in your own hellkarmic oblivion.

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