Words of Wisdom

Hello ILP,

In case some of you do not know, my posts and responses have been changing in their moods & qualities very rapidly. The reasons for this are very complex, but also very simple. So, I shall give you the simple reason:

I am quickly approaching a time in my life where I am no longer a pupil to others–people have nothing to teach me. How is this possible? It is possible, because I have spent my entire life so far listening to what other people & the world have had to say to me. I have spent my life learning. The neurological connections inside my head remained open, due to my intellectual willpower, but now they are finally closing. I finally have “things to say”. All that I can tell you for now is that I believe I have something worth saying. Whether you have faith/trust in me or not is inconsequential to my purposes; I am going to change the world.

With these things said, I would like to leave you with a gift (for the present moment). I believe I have unlocked a great deal of philosophical secrets, set forth by Socrates-himself.

Philosophy lived and died with him. Yet, it shall be reborn through me (and perhaps you if you know how to listen).

Everything you could ever wish to know or hope to know is here–reflect on these words wisely

“As for me, all I know is that I know nothing.” -Socrates

“The unexamined life is not worth living.” -Socrates

That is all for now–enjoy.

Unoriginal, I’m sick of this. All you do is post here. You don’t post coherently (I can’t understand what you’re trying to say), and sometimes, like this time, your posts don’t have any perceivable content aside from updates on your life’s journey, which mainly consist of “I’m still here! I think big thoughts! I might tell them to you someday! Notice me!” I mean seriously, you never get into any discussions with anyone, never let anyone have a chance to disprove your erroneously held views. You just clutter up the boards with the same stuff day in, day out, repeating garbled nonsense that must be very important to you because you’ve already posted about it in at least 20 other threads that are practically the same. When I try to fix your thinking, you say that what I think doesn’t matter. How is that “listening”? How is that “open”?

Let me ask you, have you read The Republic? Have you read a Critique of Pure Reason? Can you even name their authors without going to google (don’t cheat you dishonest crumb)? What about A Treatise Concerning the Principles of Human Knowledge? I’m not saying that these writings are necessarily correct, but just because they’re incorrect doesn’t mean nothing can be learned from them.

It’s ironic that you should post that Socrates quote. Frankly, you don’t know anything, and that’s how it’s going to be forever, because you’re closing your mind prematurely.

Those who are truly smart don’t learn and then teach, they do both at the same time. They are always learning.

I hear alot of unwarented arrogance in here. Your not as smart as you think you are, your not the next socrates, people have come up with your ideas before, and they have been refuted just as quickly. What you have come here with are points of view that but a few agree with, as for your quotes from socrates.
Though there is alot to be learned from the first you must also apreciate that the statment is a contradiction and cannot be an objective truth.
The second I would disagree with also, as an unexamined life is often “lived” alot more

Don’t get me wrong Socrates is one of my favorate philosophers, though he was human asnd so not perfect. What I dispise though, is when people compare themselves to the greats like this. Pull your head out of your own arse.

I heard Socrates was really ugly. True story.

“I know nothing except the fact that I can not get laid.”

Black feathers; They fly,
Swooping, pecking, devouring…
They hit problems…

When the meal is through,
They seem to forget that they,
Are too fat to fly.

Are you saying that Socrates was fat, too?

No wonder he couldn’t get laid.

Yup. You needed to believe, evidently. :slight_smile:

There are many way to make illusion of self-worth/dignity.
One way is using the (imaginary) value of other person, and becoming self-appointed representative of her/him.

If “philosophy” is still alive among many many person, the (imaginary) value of unlocking the (imaginary) secret is less important.
So, it’s pretty convenient to believe like that. Typical wishful self delusion.

I guess you’ve read too much religious bullshit …
Go to religious corner and you may find someone ready to listen anything.

Oh, that’s why he chose to take the poison.
I guess he finally understood the worthlessness of his life when he re-examined his wife. :smiley:

Wonderer is thoroughly and completely baked, and in his toastyness, has seen fit to come here and share the thoughts he has swimming like drunk fish through the smoke of his misfiring brain.

Don’t you guys have friends, for gosh sakes? Or, relatives? I mean, what is wrong with you people that every time you light up a joint you feel like coming on ILP and showing everybody how high you are. Is there some kind of highness contest running behind the scenes that I’m missing here?

Realun,

I think that you are sincere in your writings but you must realize that the internet will give rise to any and all types of persons…

People on this site give nothing for free…

There is a definite pecking order and somewhat of a stigma concerning various areas of philosophy

(the religious keep to themselves) (the athiests shit on everything) (the newbies ask dumb questions)

(and the oldies sit around and stirr their shit stew of arrogance) :laughing: (just kidding)

One of the only things things that i have learned on this site is that if you want your thoughts to be heard and heeded, you’ve really got to get your hands dirty…

no silly, when a vulture consumes his fill (because he’s a born glutton) he actually wont be able to fly away for some time because he would be too heavy… cool huh? you can just run them down and club them to death :evilfun:

I see…

might i ask, what is your purpose here? even on this thread?

Are you the pessimism clown?

p.s. do i detect a hint of jelousy?

If my brain is misfiring, i’d hate to see what your brain does…

So, Wonderer, you are saying he was fat because he was a blutton?

What’s a blutton?

:angry: i meant glutton…

:laughing:

From salted windows,
Things seem bitter and twisted.
Who knows East from West?

How is criticizing you for posting while completely stoned pessimistic? Do you know what pessimistic means, or did you divine that word from your peyote?

Jealous? Of you nincompoops? Har har har. You want to know what my brain does, Wonderer? It thinks.

My dear Thezeus…

While your feelings toward my clear lack of concern for posting while under the influence may justify your distaste for my posts, but have you ever thought of direct criticism? what we thinkers call logical objections. You know right? Meaningful criticism?

First I’m a stoned fish, capable of only god knows what, Then my brain misfires, next I’m on peyote and pulling words out of only god knows which orifice…

And to put the cherry on the cake you call me a nincompoop… A NINCOMPOOP? WHY I NEVER!

[-(

You want the low down Thezeus? In low brow laymen-type terms?

You came into this thread to boost your ego by shitting on someone else…

You haven’t made one rational comment in response to the purpose of the thread…

You called it incoherent sure… The thing is you incoherently ranted afterwards…

Get a life you know nothing… Weak minds such as yourself ruin useful conversations

Logical criticism?

OF WHAT? Your poems? There’s nothing there to criticize, it’d be like trying to beat up a cloud. My problem isn’t that the content of your posts is flawed. My problem is that there isn’t any content to speak of!

No, I came to this thread because otherwise Unoriginal is going to go on thinking his secret thoughts in his secret hole until the end of his life, and he will regret that and feel sad. I came to this thread because you and Unorignal and Joker all post tons of worthless crud that clutters these forums. I’m not saying that your ideas are worthless, don’t take this the wrong way. What I’m saying is, you don’t post your goddamn ideas, you post content-free threads like this one, and like yours on Ben’s farewell, and like Joker’s. When you do post your ideas, all you do is postulate postulate postulate, but never do you provide any argument for your position, that could then be discussed and refuted. Never do you write, “and here’s reasons #1, #2, and #3 for this belief” Its bloody masturbation, and I’m sick of it! I can’t take it anymore!

I ask again, what is there to post about? What is the purpose of the thread? From what I can see, the purpose is to scream “I’m still here! I’m still smart! Notice me!”. There’s nothing here but Unoriginal saying “I’ve decided I’m not going to learn anymore,” throwing out a few quotes, and saying “Discuss.”

Look at what he’s written. Where’s the proposition? Where’s the conclusion? This isn’t philosophy, this is a diary entry!

What useful conversation? What conversation is there at all? He posted quotes, you posted stoner poems. It’s not conversation, its not useful, and I can’t ruin house that isn’t built.

They were designed so that you wouldn’t understand them… You still don’t…

There are many facets to this website my dear friend, and many different genres of content.

IF you are unsatisfied with the content I or someone else provides, could you not simply go about your regular business as usual? Ignore us perhaps?

To be honest i find your posts dull, misguided and self righteous…

Are you ara smart person for calling another person stupid?

even if all you is true or worse, don’t you think there’s someone out there who’s willing to listen or discuss?

Personally, when i mae a post, i ask myself, “will this post be interesting at all?” " will it providea useful or interesting conversation?"

“is it worthwhile?”

I wouldn’t care if a cave man was a frequent poster, as long as his posts ansewered yes to those 3 questions then he belongs here.

even if it is so, why do you hate on someone for sincerety? i think that someone should be encouraged when they have large desires, and i also think over confidence is a must.

This site is designed so that anyone can post anything really… Do you enjoy singleing out those whom you do not like?

last i checked ignorance was not displayed until you graced the thread whith your presence…

If you don’t find it useful what do you think is the most logical action?

Express hatred?

allow me to discet the poems

I’m talking about vultures if the imagery wasn’t good enough for you (i was calling you a vulture)

What could this mean i wonder?

After you’re done taking your righteous shit, you realize that you havn’t said anything at all…

In fact, you definatly said less than the OP.

You call others bull-shit using bull-shit…

You must be the bull-shit master…