You can escape from the matrix
all you need to do
is see by non-seeing
know by non-knowing
science and maths keep you in the matrix as they see by seeing
know by knowing
it is really so simple to escape from the matrix
but not by doing science or mathematics-they just keep you imprisoned
Right. How do you know thats not what the matrix wants you to think?
because you arrive at that by non-thinking
thinking just keeps you in the dreamworld
I’m sure the matrix has already thought of that. They call this place Zion.
I escape from the Matrix by doing drugs 
I never wear underwear . . . in the matrix.
You can escape the matrix. But by doing so it requires a little bit of madness.
If mathematics is a mental prison, then how can you, apparently having escaped this prison (easily, as you state), use words in the plural? 
i see you are well in the prison/matrix
as you are still caught words by words
words are the glue that keeps you there
my problem is like explaining yellow to a blind man
words are just expediant means
provisional tools
but for you they are dogma
What you call “prison”, some of us call “home”.
If you have the keys to the cell, then yes, home. Considering suicided is on the key ring.
Numbers and words are symbols, and symbols are what allow the mind to make even a rudimentary sense of the world. Without symbols there can be no thought, no language, and no communication. Call it a prison if you want, whatever that means.
I think you’ve smoked a bit too much pot while watching a certain overrated science fiction movie.
way of the track
it is simple
see without seeing
know with out knowing
I don’t think just being alive is the prison refered to here. I have my own set of “keys” at it were, but to me they’re belief systems and the power of my own creativity. If I wanted to, I could change my beliefs to anything I see fit.
To get away from the matrix is to realise the full matrix so one can go on there own path?
I love the teenagers that discover philosophy. Are you gonna be our guide to liberation? You can’t even spell expedient. Are you writing in blank verse? If so, is Shakespeare also free from the matrix? Do you believe in those Ickey Lizard people who attack cows and plotted 9/11?
Do you believe in those Ickey Lizard people whose CIA brings down elected goverments assinates world leaders and illegally attacked iraq killing 100,000s - according the the secretatry general of the UN and international law experts
‘the matrix’ of which you speak is gothic bullshit.
Now, just replace ‘the matrix’ with ‘eternal suffering’ and pick up a copy of Hess’s Siddhartha
hahaha some forms of buddhism could be seen as trying to excape tyhe matrix
ever heard of paramartha
i prefere steppenwolf
Maybe the “prison” is the mind experiencing angst due to worship of symbols, rather than what the symbols refer to?
Our thinking symbolically is inevitable. Yes, it may not have immediate relevance, but it can be used to make (future) immediate experiences more pleasant.
Your not thinking sounds like practice in meditation, which is good for calming oneseld and being grounded, but it is also best to USE symbols to construct the way you think most harmonious (to the effortless flow of this non-thinking, true being) in every situation (including those that require highly abstract “nonsensicle” verbage).