As you need to exist to claim that you don’t exist then as a very minimum you are a binary processing biological machine which exists because it needs to exist to claim that it does exist and it doesn’t exist in the context that it doesn’t possess life.
A binary processing biological machine has no concept of what life is.
Yes, the irony.
The existing, becoming conscious, can conceptualize non-existence, as the reverse of what it is and what it experiences.
The reasons can be found in how life conceptualizes existence.
This is where nihilism is rooted and where con-artists and the priestly, attempt to exploit the gullible, using language.
Language is the root of the problem.
What does it represent?
Not from your perspective, from your perspective you could be hallucinating a so-called “Flannel Jesus” who is saying he doesn’t exist, and it really truly is the case that he doesn’t because you’ve imagined him.
I don’t exist. Prove me wrong.
Proving a negative.
The mark of genius.
What does what represent?
How can a lifeless binary processing biological machine claim to not exist if it doesn’t first exist to claim it?
What does what represent?
Semiotics…words/symbols…language.
How can a lifeless binary processing biological machine claim to not exist if it doesn’t first exist to claim it?
It can’t…because non-existence does not exist…and is only an idea an exiting organism, such as a human, can conceptualize.
How?
By inverting what it perceives and experiences as existence.
You need to exist to claim that you don’t exist but then so does a lifeless binary processing biological machine which claims things.
Ummmm no…obviously it exists because you and I can experience it.
Existence is defined as what is interactive - dynamic, apparent…present.
non-existence is the inversion of that…conceptualized as the static, the immutable, the indivisible, the static/eternal…the imperceptible…that which is never present, but always somewhere else…
You do exist because you need to exist to claim that you don’t exist.
You may not possess life but then that’s different.
I agree that you don’t exist in that context.
No, I do not need to exist just to claim I don’t…that’s ridiculous.
You can’t claim anything if you don’t exist.
Exactly…but existence does not need to claim anything.
Existence claims things.
No…existence does not need life to continue existing.
That’s absurd.
It has no motive…it requires no reason to exist.
This is only true for life…and only for a type of life, like humans, that become self-conscious.
Other animals do not claim their non-existence.
Existence doesn’t need life.I agree.
However,you need to exist to claim that you don’t exist.How can you claim anything if you don’t first exist? A binary processing biological machine which doesn’t have life….doesn’t need life to make claims.
However,you need to exist to claim that you don’t exist.How can you claim anything if you don’t first exist?
Yes…I agree and you repeat it.
But this does not lead to your conclusion that life must claim to not exist.
Yes…if there is no life, existence cannot be perceived…so?
What’s your point?
Yes…if life does not exist there is no suffering… no intent…no purpose…no objective…no consciousness…no will…no value…
Exactly…and?
A binary processing biological machine does exist though because it needs to exist to claim that it doesn’t exist.
A binary processing biological machine has no concept of what life is and doesn’t possess life so in that respect it doesn’t exist.
What?
Define life.
You are entering into crazy territory…Platonic.
How do you idealize life?
What constitutes life?
What would life be like, in your fantasies?
This isn’t crazy territory at all.
Why do you say it’s crazy territory?