art I agree 99.9%…this human group dealing with ideas about life…human centered not god centered…bottom up not top down…democrat not authoritarian…I really like Buddha but we need to include everything to be considered…I think you have trouble with jesus…I don’t because it doesn’t really matter if he is a real human or not…the message was written by guys…it came from humans like us…how do we want to live our lives…killing each other or caring about others…love is too strong for me…
I don’t like Jesus because he makes reference to “god” along with his story. It causes people to have delusional thinking. If he was a simple man who never made reference to being “son of god” then sure, he would be fine. As Buddha is.
The teachings are what need to be important, not the teacher. By him claiming all of these things, kind of negates the teachings, but makes people focus more upon him. Like they do today. Christian = “Oh I love Jesus! I worship him! I worship god!”
Budhhist = “Oh, well Buddha did not want me to worship him, but to worship myself.”
you are right …I see that in my christian church…you like Buddha…I like Buddha and jesus…I like he who has not sinned cast the first stone…
that has nothing to do with god…you can even throw out the sinned and replace it with some other word…the bible is just writing by guys…it is not holy to me…and I don’t believe in any supreme being
Except sinning doesn’t matter at all. Experience is experience, negative and positive alike. Negative experiencing/influence/action cause negative consequence, of which can limit the path. Both negative and positive realities expand the universe through individual unique experiences, but negative runs out, positive doesn’t.
Positive never runs out of paths to experience because there is no destructive ripple effect/affect.
If we go down a negative path we will most likely run out of paths to tread, due to the aspects concerning negativity, greed, selfish-importance, destruction, hate, ignorance/misinformation, etc. Of which limits experiencing and advancement.
Imagine if the human race went extinct due to vast negative path treading/experience. What then could be expanded/experienced, when we are no more. The path stops.
I just use negativity most of the time. Most people associate sinning with “evil”, which I don’t even believe to truly exist. Not in a literal sense anyways. Another reason I say. “All derives out of knowledge and influence.” Because a knowledgeable wise man will not commit atrocious acts upon his race, unless he is sick, psychopathic, uninformed/misinformed, negatively influenced, etc.
But then if he is those things, it kind of negates the fact of being a “wise man”.
Except sin has definitions of which people can use that I do not support. The words we use must have solid definitions, of which do/can not support something that has no evidence of existing that can push confusion onto others. Hence, language is powerful.
“Divine law” I don’t agree with “divine law” or “god”.
Where is “divine law” in the definitions of “wrong”. Hence, no confusion could be.
there are some things similar…this new place is not labeled atheist…there are no attacks on other beliefs…
there is no church building…that is a problem
there is no money involved at all…none
there are no spectacular entertainers…just ordinary people…
there is no leader…
this new place is a place of ideas…for our survival
if you don’t like it don’t come—I believe what the Buddha said…
attraction not persuasion
no higher power structure…
Divine law is used as the authority behind right and wrong. Without that, you have a bunch of guys, in a backroom, deciding the rules of right and wrong. And people naturally question why those are the rules and not something else.
If they already commit negative actions, what difference does it make to use fallacy over consequence anyway? Do you think people are more afraid of going to prison for their entire life, or going to “hell” “forever”? I bet prison for life.
