Love is so painful and frustrating

Uhhh… Mags, that is what he said and what I said he said. That the lady took offense is sad, but predictable. The ad hom started when she called him disgusting. The rest was pure sarcasm on his and my part. Sarcasm may be cutting (on purpose) but it isn’t ad hom.

You obviously don’t want your tea and biscuits neither Tent, do you?

The lady has called me many names in a very short space of time, and I think I took it quite well (untruths permitting, cough cough, lol) but I’m sure that we can all give our input in a more… helpful way - I know I don’t like hearing a barrage of criticisms, but if they are given in a consructive way then most don’t mind.

Nah, you can have your tea and biscuits sitting politely in the parlor. I prefer elbowing some room at the bar for a hot dog and a beer - and you wouldn’t want to try to take away my beer…

Constructive? Oh yes. But somtimes the most important part of being constructive is pointing out when someone is flying around in space panties It is just another way of being ‘helpful’. I was truly hurt to see that Tab was labeled as disgusting and I was left out. I know for sure that I’m just as disgusting. I mean, what does it take to get a little recognition around here?

eru-----do you want any further help here???
there may be some potential here but you are getting some pretty harsh comments…but there are some ideas to think about…remember “to love and be loved”…

Ya. Thank you for that reminder. To love and be loved. I have many obstacles in me that make it difficult to follow this simple principle in all my affairs. It’s my flesh. I’m prideful and too wrathful. I have a burning desire to cut down all those who resist love, but it’s almost a fruitless battle sometimes. Especially here. I’m realizing that some people enjoy their lovelessness, their lawlessness. I have to accept that. It’s painful.
I see a lot of miserable self-serving arguments here, in favour of hate. I’m not sure why. How can people resist love!

Anyway. This was just a personal post to begin with, didn’t expect it to becomes so fiery, but I think it’s a good thing, it means people care about me, whether for my gain or loss, they still care. They are not indifferent. That’s good. It means I’ve said or done something that’s struck a cord with them. Hopefully the bud will grow into a flower inside these people.

I’m surprised at the lack of optimism concerning love here. On facebook all my friends and I post love songs about how painful it can be and how uncertain it is but how it’s still beautiful. We embrace the risk of it, that’s what makes it valuable. But here, people are really depressed about broken love. It seems like heartbreak is worse than the possibility of finding love for some people here! Ha, says a bit about the philosopher types huh…

Blessed are you when men revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account. Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven, for so men persecuted the prophets who were before you. Matthew 5:11-12

And does that work Turtle, in your vast experience…?

I’m guessing none of you here have any idea about long term relationships. Do you.

tab what can you help us with???your credentials may not reflect what wisdom you have…

Oh shut up Turtle. Beat sixteen years of happy marriage or just admit everything you know about love comes from the Disney channel.

what are you so angry about tab???

Why are you avoiding the question turtle…?

what question tab???

looks good to me tab-----

I rest my case. Eru, take turtle’s advice about everything. He’s done the research. And he’s good at lego and drawing pictures of rainbows.

eru— do you want any more help here???

What do you mean by help?
I’ve been updating my foes list so I don’t have to see posts by people who send me into wrath… I really hate the wrathful side of myself and I don’t want to stop using ILP, so it’s the only option. It sucks because I can’t participate in discussion fully, but having peace of mind is worth it.

The foe option is a handy tool, and you never know… you might un-foe a few as time goes on.

erutxet

Lols and; Fair enough, I just don’t know what the wait is all about, I guess if he does come to feel he loves you then all’s well that ends well! Does he love her? If so then his integrity may not be all you hope for. On the other hand most/many people are in relationships when they meet someone else, so if he is for real then he’s doing the right thing. I guess you’ll know in the months to come, so good luck.

One word of advice; its probably not a good idea to believe in people, especially if you believe in the jealous god. The spiritual road will always take you beyond earthly relationships, its worth remembering that.

You may have to read the OP again Quetz, to see why the wait…

Ah yes, the AA thing. I’d lie n stuff if I loved someone, fuck the AA rules. :wink: