The Pretzel Mind Explored: Antifa are Fascists, hence Fascists are .. oh damn, ANTIFA!

THE STATS ON CRIME & ETHNICITY IN THE UK:

I checked out Mongolian crime rates and admittedly, the rates only increased by about 10-20% since … 1912? Up to 2000.

So, let’s just get back to Blighty (Britain, UK to be precise) -

MY SUMMARY: CRIMES HAVE INCREASED QUITE A BIT BUT IT IS EXPLICABLE BY NEW CRIMES, MORE REPORTING, BETTER DETECTION

Crime rates between 1900 and 1955

Many factors make it difficult to be accurate about crime rates. However, there was an increase in crime from the late 1920s due to the economic depression and then World War Two. After 1955, crime rose steeply.

Problems with crime statistics

Statistics about crime rates were recorded annually by the government after 1898. However, historians must treat the data cautiously, for the following reasons:

  • Some crime was not reported officially. For example, in the past, some problems, particularly with young offenders, might have been dealt with informally without being recorded by the police.
  • Some crime was reported more than it had been in the past. This was the case in instances of burglary, because insurance companies required reporting to the police in order for a claim to be made.<==== THIS EXPLAINS THE EXPLOSION IN RAPE CRIME IN SWEDEN, COINCIDING WITH MASS-MIGRATION
  • Laws changed so that some offences were no longer crimes and new crimes emerged. <==== AGAIN, THIS EXPLAINS THE EXPLOSION IN RAPE CRIME IN SWEDEN, COINCIDING WITH MASS-MIGRATION - “MARITAL RAPE” BECAME A CRIME, WHICH INCIDENTALLY THE RIGHT WING WOULD OPPOSE, YET THEY MAKE USE OF IT TO SAY MIGRANTS ARE “RAPE-FUGEES” CAUSING RAPES ALL OVER SWEDEN, WHEN IN FACT IT’S JUST STATISTICAL QUIRKS

Crime rates between 1900 and 1955

Between 1900 and 1925, crime rates were relatively stable. They then increased in the late 1920s and 1930s, with the onset of economic problems and unemployment during the depression. The government was also dealing with many strikes and protests during this period.

When World War Two broke out in 1939, crime rates fell initially, then rose again during the Blitz in 1940. Criminals took advantage of the air raids to steal from people’s homes, shops and even people killed in the air raids. The war also brought rationing, which led to the theft and illegal sale of goods on the black market.

Crime since 1955

After 1955, crime increased significantly, at a much faster rate than the increase in population. Violent crime increased, as did other types of crime. The number of murders fell, but this has largely been explained by improvements in medicine, which meant that fewer people died from injuries.

Car-related crime

By 1900, the motor car had been invented and car ownership increased over the 20th century. New laws were created to restrict speeding and driving under the influence of alcohol. As a result, car-related crime is now one of the biggest categories of crime.

Car-related crime includes:

  • drink driving - an alcohol limit was introduced in 1967
  • not wearing seat belts - compulsory for drivers after 1983 and adult passengers after 1991
  • breaking the speed limit
  • joy-riding, where people steal a car and then abandon it after riding around in it
  • car theft and the sale of stolen vehicles

Road deaths have fallen since the 1960s, even though there are now more cars on the road. Car theft has also significantly decreased as security systems in cars have been improved.

Football hooliganism

Violence among spectators at football matches increased throughout the 20th century, reaching its height in the 1970s and 1980s. It has fallen again since match security has increased and the use of CCTV has become more widespread.

Hate crimes

In 1948, the government passed the British Nationality Act, which gave all citizens of the British Empire, now Commonwealth, unrestricted access to Britain. Between 1950 and 1975, many people from places such as the Caribbean, India, Kenya and Pakistan moved to Britain.

Drug-related crime

The government made cocaine and opium illegal substances as early as 1920. However, it was not until the 1960s that illegal drug-taking became a serious problem in society.

In 1971, the government categorised drugs into classes A, B and C. Offences relating to Class A drugs carry the harshest punishments. Supplying Class A drugs to other people initially resulted in a maximum prison sentence of 14 years. This increased to a maximum prison sentence of life from 1985. …

Cybercrime

When widespread internet access arose in the 1990s criminal activity in Britain changed. In 2015, the government included figures for cybercrime in the national crime statistics for the first time. The cybercrime rate had doubled from the previous year. …

MY COMMENT: NOW LET’S GET TO THE PRESENT

Demographics: The Muslim population in UK is mostly Asian. Not all Asians are Muslims of course, l’d say at least 60% are. Use the following graph to calibrate the later stats -

SO, FOR MUSLIMS, TAKE THE ASIAN PERCENTAGE OF UK (approx. 9%) and take 60% of that (6%-7% is a good generous estimate).
SO, FOR THE FOLLOWING STATS, IF MUSLIMS ARE PROPORTIONATELY REPRESENTED IN CRIME STATS, THEY WILL ACCOUNT FOR 6-7% ONCE YOU MULTIPLY THE ASIAN % BY 0.6 (60%) - i.e. IF ASIANS ARE 8% OF A CRIME CATEGORY, MUSLIMS WOULD BE (0.6*8)% OF THAT = 4.8%, WHICH IS BELOW THE 6-7% IF MUSLIMS WERE PROPORTIONATELY CRIMINAL IN THAT CATEGORY, i.e. Muslims are less criminal than their % stake in the population of the UK.

MY COMMENT: NOW THE JUICE
Source: Statistics on Ethnicity and the Criminal Justice System, 2024 (HTML) - GOV.UK

VICTIMS OF CRIME:

Sum across all horiztonal groups = 100%

ARRESTS:

Sum across each VERTICAL bar = 100%

INDICTABLE OFFENCES:
SUM ACROSS EACH HORIZONTAL BAR = 100%

Of the defendants prosecuted for indictable offences in 2024, where ethnicity is known, 83% were White, 7% were Black, 6% were Asian, 3% were of Mixed ethnicity and 1% were of the Other ethnic group - with similar proportions seen in convictions.

PRISON POPULATION:
Sum across each VERTICAL bar = 100%

Muslims are one of the least criminal groups in the UK. Remember to multiple “Asian” by 0.6-0.7 to get an approximateion the percentage of that category that are Muslims doing it.

UK crime has increased drastically since 1921 but this can be attributed to new crime categories, better detection and increased reporting.

Notably: the new crime cats and increased reporting also actually explain the recent (since circa 2000) explosion in Sweden’s rapes. Coinciding with mass migration. BUT BUT … Sweden made marital rape a crime, and the perpetrators are overwhelmingly native Swedes etc etc.

This creation of marital rape as a crime cat should be against Right Wing ideals of family and protecting marriage right? Yet the right wing treat is a gift when they need stats to scapegoat migrants as rapists.

I would also theorise that since mass migration of Asians into the UK circa 1970 onward, native Whites have sliiiightly increased in economic status, and an increase in affluence = decrease in criminality (basically because there’s less need to be a scumbag if you are well off).

So, a slight increase in White affluence is indeed mirrored in a slight under-representation of White race in the stats, but note that even though Asians (think: my intended focus = Muslims) are very low economic class (poor, not very affluent) they STILL manage to be under-represented in crime too!

Again this graph ^^^

The sharp peak was late 80s, when the UK went into a massive economic recession. This was before the huge jump in migrants (refugees mainly l think) from 2000 onward so you can’t say it was refugees.

So my point is, look what poverty does to crime stats. Muslims live very poor in the UK. Yet they still manage to be under-represented in crime, not just as an ethnicity (presumed Asian with slight overestimation to correct for other Muslim ethnicities), but as poor people.




THE CRIMES OF MIGRANTS ADDRESSED - SPOILER: MAYBE IT WAS NAUSE ALL ALONG? DUN DUN DUNNNNNN:

There are compatibility issues. I know. But you ignore the wider picture of how this all came about. Moreover, the UK is obliged to take in migrants as part of a UN agreement. It is not politics. It is the World.

YOU do not run the WORLD. You are a powerless narrowminded bigot who does NOT run the world.

As for Somali pirates and terrorism in Germany … that is nothing to do with Islam. Islam is noble.

In fact, what’s to say that the Somali Pirates are really even Muslim? None of these problems existed before Israel.
In fact the Somali pirates could even be Magyars from NUBIA. “Magyarabs have been members of the World Federation of Hungarians (Magyarok Világszövetsége) since 1992 and still consider themselves as Hungarians.”

Source: Magyarab people - Wikipedia

So, l’m sorry @nausamedu but l need to question your role in all of this?

Also, who does terrorism serve? It scandalises Muslims and Islam is the only religion that prescriptively explicitly forbids terrorism by law. Your one-sided view will never admit this.

Also note: UK permitted East Europeans to work here. The media reports that East Europeans have brought a lot of crime here, especially since 2014 with the dropping of restrictions on Bulgarians and Romanians. But even prior to then, l saw a lot of criminality with Poles, in person and on the news.

Have you ever seen me complain? No, because l know the vicissitudes of life. I see the bigger picture, the sad reality that uproots people and makes them work thousands of km away in order to bring money home - including the many Hungarian surgeons in the UK, one of whom l have visited for oral surgery. There was also a Hungarian girl previously in a room in a shared house which l later moved into. She apparently dated a Bangladeshi guy at the same Indian restaurant where she worked. One of the guys in the shared house - an English guy - was madly in love with her and told me all this. She one day disappeared, leaving only a motorbike in the backyard. She was probably involved with some form of crime for her to do that (no, she wasn’t killed, we have a police force here that does look into such things).

I like East Europeans and have listened to world music, including East European, since l was a teenager. In fact, l was fairly interested in Bela Bartok and Zoltan Kodaly, having studied a book of ethnomusicology written by the latter. I also had a vintage Hungarian Citer for a while.

And, regarding integration and your narrowmindedness:




NAUSE’S FAKE STATS:

THE MAINSTREAM LEFT, RIGHT & CENTRE ARE NOT THE ISSUE. THE ISSUE IS THE EXTREME LEFT AND EXTREME RIGHT. I HAVE SHOWN YOU 40 SEX OFFENDERS FROM THE FAR RIGHT JUST FROM ONE BLOG THAT ONLY SPANNED ABOUT 5 YEARS. YOU RESPONDED BY FAKE STATS ABOUT ASYLUM SEEKERS (WHO MAY BE RIGHT WING FOR ALL YOU KNOW) AND THEN LISTED AS “LEFT WING SEX OFFENDERS” A BUNCH OF GUYS THAT WERE NOT LEFT WING AND / OR WERE NOT SEX OFFENDERS. YOU CONTINUED UNABASHED WHEN THIS WAS POINTED OUT. YOU SHOT BACK A REDUCTIO AD ABSURDAM THAT I’M SAYING THERE ARE NO LEFT WING SEX OFFENDERS.

THERE WILL BE SEX OFFENDERS IN MAINSTREAM POLITICS ON ALL SIDES (BUT THEY ARE QUITE HARD TO FIND IN THE MAINSTREAM LEFT, EVENSO, AREN’T THEY? AREN’T THEY? HUH? AREN’T THEY? WELL?).

HOWEVER, THE MAINSTREAM = PEOPLE DOING WRONG BECAUSE THEY ARE PEOPLE.
THE POLITICAL EXTREMES = PEOPLE DOING WRONG QUITE LIKELY BECAUSE THEIR LIVES ARE PREDICATED ON THEIR POLITICS, THEY ARE ALL UP IN A VIEWPOINT.
SO IT FALLS TO YOU TO POINT OUT THE FAR LEFT SEX OFFENDERS, IN THE SAME MANNER I CASUALLY SHOWED 40 FAR RIGHT (INC. NAZI) SEX OFFENDERS FROM THE PRESENT ERA.
YOU HAVE FAILED TO DO SO.

Your stats are baseless. You have shown no evidence. Also it’s clear from your words here that you are just running AI to churn out these false stats. If anything is disproven, then it is a lie as far as you are concerned. Google is greater than UK Government to you, when it comes to UK stats. This is a tragic commentary on modernity and you, being oldskool 50something should have known better.

You have also ignored everything explained by the CJS survey l pointed out here:

To bolster your attack on the left wing, you said the stats l presented (from a neutral source, that is, the governmental level, not political level) were lies.

You gave a link to a Guardian (centre-left) news article from 2014 stating police crime figures lost official status due to “fiddling”.

I didn’t want to take cookies so l Googled a similar article, here: Police crime figures can't be trusted | Centre for Crime and Justice Studies

As follows:
*"According to The Daily Mail, ministers have been keen to point out the ten per cent drop in crime since the coalition came to power. However the Office for National Statistics warned that police records ‘overstate the true rate at which crime has been falling’.

Leading an inquiry into crime statistics, Tom Winsor, the Chief Inspector for Constabulary for England and Wales said he expects to find ‘some fiddling’."

The separately compiled Crime in England and Wales survey is unaffected by the UKSA decision. * <=== THAT IS PART OF THE SURVEY I QUOTED YOU FOR 2023-2025. IT IS UNAFFECTED AND IS DATED 1 DECADE AFTER THIS REPORT.

NOTES:

  1. You cite the UK Statistics Authority (UKSA)
  2. The UKSA oversees the data set l showed you, from the Criminal Justice System (CJS)
  3. The stats l showed you were mostly for crimes that were actually prosecuted, l think the “Victims” data could have been a mix of reported and prosecuted, unsure
  4. The statistics and enduring government policies on things like immigration, are overwhelmingly at Whitehall level, that is to say, core bureaucracy, what would properly be called “Deep State” but without the conspiracy-theory hype. It is just core government without politics. It is neither left nor right, and 99.99% of the things you complain about in the UK and Europe are down to core government. As such, your stance is Revolutionary and anti-democratic. Being right wing, it is therefore on the fascist / Nazi axis. Sorry.
  5. This report about police stats being untrustworthy, which may probably no longer apply, was 10 years before the stats l presented to you
  6. This report about police stats being untrustworthy worked against the RIGHT WING, who were trying to present themselves as champions of law and order, by saying they drastically reduced crime during their tenure.
  7. The UK will always be normally a RIGHT WING country, perhaps due to the way boroughs are delineated, there’s a ghost of the “rotten borough” phenomenon still surviving, where many boroughs are sparsely populated, thus the people in them are well-off landowners inc. landed gentry, and thus highly conservative, and thus a lot of boroughs are guaranteed Tory seats decade after decade.

APPENDIX: MORE NAUSE GIVING OUT FAKE STATS:




NAUSE IN DENIAL THAT HUNGARY MAY HAVE A BRAINWASHED POSTCOMMUNIST MINDSET, PERHAPS?:

(Emphasis mine)




THE LAST WORD: NAZISM IS ALWAYS MURDER, AND ANYWAY, YOU ARE ANTIFA!:

You will never be able to counterargue that:

  1. Fascists / Nazis are a deviation from democratic equilibrium.
  2. Fascists / Nazis make a show of force wherever they go, regardless their plea of victimisation and protecting young female sexuality, they are brutal sexcases. You would never leave your young around them would you? Or your elderly for that matter. They each have a criminal record as long as a moebius strip.
  3. Antifascists / far left act as a stop gap in reaction to the Far Right.
  4. Even on their own, without any Far Right, the Far Left will always be for the greater part of society regardless colour, the far right will always be for the largest bloc of one colour.
    5. There is no Nazism without murder (extrajudicial killing). Nazism is a thrill kill cult.

Nause: you’re not Nazi, and Antifa are Nazi and you just hate antifa for that reason, which … hang on … makes youantifa? Blushes

Peace :slight_smile:
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